Should Manny Pac go ahead with the blood test?

[AdamGB]

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

and Floyd and Manny aren't shattering word records of human physical achievement, competing at a high level days on days and raking in gold medals at the peak of physical competition.

What's your point?

If the tests were to have any long term effects then they would likely show over a peroid of days rather than just one evening of competition... Bolt did OK.

Your body is constantly getting rid of old blood cells and creating new ones from your bone marrow... for an elite athlete in peak physical condition I don't really think that a few SPOONFULS spread over a long period will make all that much difference.

[Gandalf]

The poll is turning out pretty much like I expected. There are a few apologists saying no, but I haven't really heard a credible argument explaining to me why the blood test should not go ahead. It's frustrating more than anything else. This was a time when I had finally warmed to Manny and was even hoping he would beat Floyd and now he decides to pull this card? By not going ahead with the test, Manny loses a lot of respect as I'm sure it's not only me that is feeling this way.

Both fighters have agreed to everything else. Floyd has agreed to pay a never seen before penalty of 10 million dollars a pound in excess weight. Now why won't Manny put up with Floyds one and significantly less expensive request in return?

The boxing world needs to hear from Pacquiao himself and the record needs to be set straight.

[Gandalf]

Roach here 'explains' why Manny will not give blood. Again, I find his reasoning to be very weak. The same old "it will make Manny mentally tired" argument. You would have thought they would have come up with something a little more persuasive.

Sky Sports | Boxing | News | Roach slams Mayweather

[blegit]

Roach here 'explains' why Manny will not give blood. Again, I find his reasoning to be very weak. The same old "it will make Manny mentally tired" argument. You would have thought they would have come up with something a little more persuasive.

Sky Sports | Boxing | News | Roach slams Mayweather

This is getting bad. I was going for Pac but I'm a boxing fan first and this is looking bad. Amazing how they say Mayweather doesn't want the fight but the only thing holding up the fight is how Pac's supposed unstable superstitious mental state would be if he is tested a week before the fight. Is that really the best they could come up with

[blegit]

Roach needs to rehearse his interviews. Each interview is sounding worse and making me say did he think first. Latest one is he said he won't play the Mayweather rules for wanting reliable steroid testing but forgets Mayweather is playing his rules... at the tune of $10 million/pound.

[Gandalf]

Roach here 'explains' why Manny will not give blood. Again, I find his reasoning to be very weak. The same old "it will make Manny mentally tired" argument. You would have thought they would have come up with something a little more persuasive.

Sky Sports | Boxing | News | Roach slams Mayweather

This is getting bad. I was going for Pac but I'm a boxing fan first and this is looking bad. Amazing how they say Mayweather doesn't want the fight but the only thing holding up the fight is how Pac's supposed unstable superstitious mental state would be if he is tested a week before the fight. Is that really the best they could come up with

The arguments I have heard from Arum and Roach have been somewhat corny. Arum is talking about "harrassment". Roach is talking about a blood test affecting Manny's "mentality". We have all gone through the arguments that a blood test is really not that big a deal. If Manny is able to endure getting tattoos, then surely he is able to deal with a random blood test several times over the course of a 2/3 month period. Mayweather would be going through the same thing. It's a simple case of give and take. Mayweather gave with the weight clause, but the Pac camp refuses to give anything in return and in doing so has cast some doubt on the credibility of Pac himself. You couldn't make this stuff up, it would be funny if only it wasn't so real.

[eagle]

Surely if Manny walks away from the biggest payday of his career due to as small a detail as getting blood tests he is on drugs. The whole 'blood tests freak me out' argument is fucken bulshit.

[Youngblood]

Puppets on a string...

That's the thing. Ain't no thing at all, but puppets on a string.

Ya all can dance and ya all can sing, but it ain't no more then puppets on a string.

do do dee do deee doo.

Dance, dance, dance.

do do dee do deee doo.

Puppets on a string.

[blegit]

The poll is turning out pretty much like I expected. There are a few apologists saying no, but I haven't really heard a credible argument explaining to me why the blood test should not go ahead. It's frustrating more than anything else. This was a time when I had finally warmed to Manny and was even hoping he would beat Floyd and now he decides to pull this card? By not going ahead with the test, Manny loses a lot of respect as I'm sure it's not only me that is feeling this way.

Both fighters have agreed to everything else. Floyd has agreed to pay a never seen before penalty of 10 million dollars a pound in excess weight. Now why won't Manny put up with Floyds one and significantly less expensive request in return?

The boxing world needs to hear from Pacquiao himself and the record needs to be set straight.

Miles, I'm feeling very much the same. I was going to be rooting for Pac but this whole debacle has gotten me suspicious more than normal. I've been around different steroids quite a bit myself and I know that urine tests are easy to beat. Roach says he would agree to have Pac submit to testing up to the week of the fight but Arum says Pac will not allow a blood draw within 30 days of the fight. Travis Tygart, chief of the USADA, says blood drawn that far away from the event is not effective. Besides, Arum basically wants to schedule the tests by not allowing testing closer within 30 days of the event thus defeating the purpose and effectiveness of random testing. And the blood draw is small enough to be replaced within 1 hour. And according to Ellerbe the fighters would not be tested closer than March 11th. Board Message