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Why shouldn't there be question marks over every great fighter in history then? Why aren't we questioning the wins of Hopkins who gained 15 lbs in 6 months or Roy who gained god knows how much for Ruiz, or the known cheats in Holy Mosley and Toney?
Because Pac (a fighter who has already been subject to steroid claims) has been asked to take the more conclusive tests, and is refusing. This fight is also at the pinnacle of their careers, money, everything. Don't say that people like Mosley just got away with juicing. His reputation will always be tarnished by it. Despite that he was only recorded to be on them for a couple fights.

If Pac refuses to be tested for this fight, potentially the largest money-maker in history, it's more than suspicious. He has already been the target of steroid allegations and he knows it. Even his team (including his loudmouth trainer) can't come up with anything better than "he doesn't like blood tests", "blood tests don't affect him well... mentally", "Floyd is just bullying"..... CMON take the stupid test and lets see a fair fight.
That's the gripe I have, what exactly are the basis of these claims? The mutterings of an idiot in Floyd Senior and Malignaggis pseudo science on the radio(cause he talked to some meatheads in the gym), NOT a fucking shred of evidence/paper trail/dodgy connections to Balco. Defend Pac on this and you're labelled an apologist, yet u defend Mosley with this 'only for couple fights ' bollocks, how exactly does he get a free ride over the rest of his career when his steroid taking isn't in doubt?

Wether we like it or not our favourite sport has the same 'do what u like just don't get caught' attitude that American Football and baseball has, and like them it's likeley that a significant (majority even!)% of the elite are on something stronger than lucozade. Athletics has the most stringent tests in sport yet is still ripe with juicing, do you not think that in a sport where loading gloves and headbutting are used to gain an advantage that PED's aren't probably the norm?
I wasn't defending Mosley in the slightest. After hearing the facts, I believe he knew that he was playing unfairly and deserves the rap he's gotten. It's unmeasurable amounts of damage to his reputation. I also don't agree with your initial comparison about paper trails leading to Pacquiao. That was evidence when Mosley was caught. I don't believe you need receipts connecting you to the drugs, to be suspect. Disregarding Floyd Sr's senile rants, Paulie had some very valid points that, while there are a couple counter-arguments, still easily cast a shadow of doubt.

You are correct in your second statement. Like it or not, it is a dirty sport. I believe that we, as a community, should push for it to have less of that "do what u like just don't get caught" attitude. We should take the first step by supporting more conclusive drug tests, checking for loaded gloves, etc. Admitting that boxing is damned is just taking it further down the road to non-existence. Lets try and be positive and push to save the sport that we love from corruption. The best cheater shouldn't be the best athlete, and vice versa.