Vivek Wallace and his opinion on Pac Mayweather.

[the wiz]

Ok, here's just one point I'll make on this. The reason for blood testing is primarily for the testing of HGH, which cannont be detected in a urine test. Well to get the full effects of HGH you need to be using it for 6 months. It's not something you're going to shoot once and BAM you're all jacked up on HGH, it just doesn't work that way.

So testing 30 days before the fight and immidately following the fight would be more than sufficient for detecting HGH.

Yes for HGH but not for EPO and other PEDs.

True on EPO but other PED's (and I could be wrong) I thought they would be detected via the urine tests and/or blood tests that are proposed by the Pacquiao camp.

I think what we got here is not really Pac hiding anything, just a BIG pissing contest by both camps. It's a shame it's going to deraill a big fight of this magnitude.

[Dr. Steelhammer]

Ok, here's just one point I'll make on this. The reason for blood testing is primarily for the testing of HGH, which cannont be detected in a urine test. Well to get the full effects of HGH you need to be using it for 6 months. It's not something you're going to shoot once and BAM you're all jacked up on HGH, it just doesn't work that way.

So testing 30 days before the fight and immidately following the fight would be more than sufficient for detecting HGH.

Yes for HGH but not for EPO and other PEDs.

True on EPO but other PED's (and I could be wrong) I thought they would be detected via the urine tests and/or blood tests that are proposed by the Pacquiao camp.

I think what we got here is not really Pac hiding anything, just a BIG pissing contest by both camps. It's a shame it's going to deraill a big fight of this magnitude.

I'm not sure. But recently, didn't Chavez Jr went positive for PEDs just by a urine test?

Anyways. I just read an article in other thread posted by Inztanzz. Apparently, there's a big development. The fight will more likely to happen after all if team Mayweather agrees. It's Floyd move now. It's like a chess match.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Yes for HGH but not for EPO and other PEDs.

True on EPO but other PED's (and I could be wrong) I thought they would be detected via the urine tests and/or blood tests that are proposed by the Pacquiao camp.

I think what we got here is not really Pac hiding anything, just a BIG pissing contest by both camps. It's a shame it's going to deraill a big fight of this magnitude.

I'm not sure. But recently, didn't Chavez Jr went positive for PEDs just by a urine test?

Anyways. I just read an article in other thread posted by Inztanzz. Apparently, there's a big development. The fight will more likely to happen after all if team Mayweather agrees. It's Floyd move now. It's like a chess match.

no they were diuretics (spelling) so they didn't enhance his performance whatsoever, completely different story

[Spicoli]

Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas

[holmcall]

Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas

And hyped by this guy Wallace. If you don't have proof. Be quite.

[:::PSL:::]

Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas

And hyped by this guy Wallace. If you don't have proof. Be quite.

That's right. Mayweather has no evidence or whatsoever to prove that Pac is onto something to start with. It's all envy, jealousy, and wild baseless accusation.

[piye]

No offense but all unbiased fans in this post have come to the same conclusion. the only thing you other guys have demonstrated is that you are unable to look at things without personal bias becoming envolved.

[JT Rock]

Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas

So what your saying is we should ignore the suspicions about Manny Pacquiao and performance enhancers which lets face it could very well be true and just sweep it under the rug, while that little prick with his clueless smile cheats his way into Boxing histoey and folklore

Like I stated earlier Floyd has to take the same test, so were is there any advantage for Mayweather? This is a question of ethics and morals. All Pac has to do is have a bit of blood taken and some urine? Im sure he has his blood taken frequently as well as shots and immunizations seeing he travels from the Philippines and the US quite a bit.

Not to mention all the crack pot reasons

He dosent like needles(Even though he has tattoos and has been seen getting blood drawn)

He's superstitious

He's a grown friggin man with a 40 million payday on the horizon and he's begging off a thorough drug test even though he has accomplished the impossible and defies natural logic in his career and stature, oh and by the way he happens to flourish in the steroid era!!

[Spicoli]

Less talk-more fight.This theatrical reality show esq crap is turning boxing into a bad episode of the Maury Povich show.One of the biggest high profile clashes seen in the mass media,by casual and hardcore fans alike ....in yearrrrrs and scandal,steroids & cheating lead the way.Well done.Both camps need to stfu and get a grip before being wreckless!This sport has to maintain after they are both long gone.Oh and merry christmas

So what your saying is we should ignore the suspicions about Manny Pacquiao and performance enhancers which lets face it could very well be true and just sweep it under the rug, while that little prick with his clueless smile cheats his way into Boxing histoey and folklore

Like I stated earlier Floyd has to take the same test, so were is there any advantage for Mayweather? This is a question of ethics and morals. All Pac has to do is have a bit of blood taken and some urine? Im sure he has his blood taken frequently as well as shots and immunizations seeing he travels from the Philippines and the US quite a bit.

Not to mention all the crack pot reasons

He dosent like needles(Even though he has tattoos and has been seen getting blood drawn)

He's superstitious

He's a grown friggin man with a 40 million payday on the horizon and he's begging off a thorough drug test even though he has accomplished the impossible and defies natural logic in his career and stature, oh and by the way he happens to flourish in the steroid era!!

Bud.Case you missed it I said both camps.Every man should be held accountable and even attempting to 'sweep' this affair under the rug would be damn near impossible.Press,reps and more so the fans wont allow it.As it should be.Trust me this will be headlines hence forth.Too much grand standing and drama in the sport today.Frankly not swayed by fanhood regarding one fighter or the other here.

My point is more accurately that at last count their are no less then 17,18 threads relating to a Mayweather/Pacquiao/doping issue here,front page and how its turning a huge opportunity for public consumption into a sideshow spectacle.Merry Christmas also.