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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even Roach must be wondering now and may start distancing himself

    I mean.....To go for a lawsuit rather than do the tests is a bit over the top dont you think

    No way Manny wins a lawsuit, Floyd hasnt even specifically said hes juicing anyway, hes just requested that Manny do the same tests as himself and Manny has refused

    Floyd senior and Maligniga have publicly questioined Mannys performances which is why I laughed at Paulie being mentioned as a possible alternate opponent, Paulie should ask for the same tests
    IMO Roach has a thing for cheaters lol First James Toney, then the rumors that he was gonna train Margarito, and now the Pacquiao scandal lol

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even Roach must be wondering now and may start distancing himself

    I mean.....To go for a lawsuit rather than do the tests is a bit over the top dont you think

    No way Manny wins a lawsuit, Floyd hasnt even specifically said hes juicing anyway, hes just requested that Manny do the same tests as himself and Manny has refused

    Floyd senior and Maligniga have publicly questioined Mannys performances which is why I laughed at Paulie being mentioned as a possible alternate opponent, Paulie should ask for the same tests
    IMO Roach has a thing for cheaters lol First James Toney, then the rumors that he was gonna train Margarito, and now the Pacquiao scandal lol
    Hehe, but he refused Margarito and said in an interview that he doesn't believe Margarito when he says he didn't know for his gloves, I don't recall where but I saw that on youtube.
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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Nameless View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even Roach must be wondering now and may start distancing himself

    I mean.....To go for a lawsuit rather than do the tests is a bit over the top dont you think

    No way Manny wins a lawsuit, Floyd hasnt even specifically said hes juicing anyway, hes just requested that Manny do the same tests as himself and Manny has refused

    Floyd senior and Maligniga have publicly questioined Mannys performances which is why I laughed at Paulie being mentioned as a possible alternate opponent, Paulie should ask for the same tests
    IMO Roach has a thing for cheaters lol First James Toney, then the rumors that he was gonna train Margarito, and now the Pacquiao scandal lol
    Hehe, but he refused Margarito and said in an interview that he doesn't believe Margarito when he says he didn't know for his gloves, I don't recall where but I saw that on youtube.
    yea i know bro lol i'm just trying to piss off the Pac nutthuggers a bit lol, i think it was on Cotto/Pacquiao 24/7 wasn't it?

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Well this makes complete sense doesn't it

    Spending thousands on a lawsuit that could become quite messy and won't actually prove he's not on PEDs, when an easy way to erase this doubt is just to give a few minutes of his time to take a blood test on his way to earning $40 million. Its starting to look more suspicious to me

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    yup, it's like when a dude cheats on his wife but out of paranoia starts to accuse her of wrongdoing lol

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even Roach must be wondering now and may start distancing himself

    I mean.....To go for a lawsuit rather than do the tests is a bit over the top dont you think

    No way Manny wins a lawsuit, Floyd hasnt even specifically said hes juicing anyway, hes just requested that Manny do the same tests as himself and Manny has refused

    Floyd senior and Maligniga have publicly questioined Mannys performances which is why I laughed at Paulie being mentioned as a possible alternate opponent, Paulie should ask for the same tests
    IMO Roach has a thing for cheaters lol First James Toney, then the rumors that he was gonna train Margarito, and now the Pacquiao scandal lol
    It is only floyd sr. who will be accused not jr. That's what i think.
    And i believe cintron and malignaggi should really be included on that law suit. This has steamrolled to a degrading matter for pac and mostly everyone is riding this hype. It's just the same as when everyone believed elvis is alive, or there is a loch ness monster. Bull shit. This law suit will shed more light coz it will actually prove pac is clean and i believe that so. Who can question the u.s. judiciary? Can arum and pac bribe his way to them?? Nope.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    remember when Jackson 'paid off' the parents of the kid who accused him of kiddie fiddling......didn't stop a good portion of people thinking he was guilty.

    So rather than Pac say here you go, here's a sample, no excuses for when I beat you, he'd rather (and his fans) let the lawyers fight it out.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    remember when Jackson 'paid off' the parents of the kid who accused him of kiddie fiddling......didn't stop a good portion of people thinking he was guilty.

    So rather than Pac say here you go, here's a sample, no excuses for when I beat you, he'd rather (and his fans) let the lawyers fight it out.
    You don't seem to realize that the source of all this should be thought a lesson, so as the fans fighting out of themselves and the chaos bought about by an imaginitive crack head's mouth!
    No blood test just to agree to a crack head. Would a guy enveloped with machismo do such a thing? The law suit will prove everything as there will be an investigation so why agree with sr. or pbf's camp terms? The fight could have happened if team pbf did not proposed this stupid olympic drug test shit.
    And if the public really wants it, pac would eventually abide with the blood test. This will be a blow to the obvious haters out there who kept riding this hype to jump the gun. 40million dollars is something pac won't take off for granted believe me. Maybe after a couple of weeks pac would eventually agree with this. But the law suit would and should be dished out.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Even Roach must be wondering now and may start distancing himself

    I mean.....To go for a lawsuit rather than do the tests is a bit over the top dont you think

    No way Manny wins a lawsuit, Floyd hasnt even specifically said hes juicing anyway, hes just requested that Manny do the same tests as himself and Manny has refused

    Floyd senior and Maligniga have publicly questioined Mannys performances which is why I laughed at Paulie being mentioned as a possible alternate opponent, Paulie should ask for the same tests
    IMO Roach has a thing for cheaters lol First James Toney, then the rumors that he was gonna train Margarito, and now the Pacquiao scandal lol
    It is only floyd sr. who will be accused not jr. That's what i think.
    And i believe cintron and malignaggi should really be included on that law suit. This has steamrolled to a degrading matter for pac and mostly everyone is riding this hype. It's just the same as when everyone believed elvis is alive, or there is a loch ness monster. Bull shit. This law suit will shed more light coz it will actually prove pac is clean and i believe that so. Who can question the u.s. judiciary? Can arum and pac bribe his way to them?? Nope.
    ...or he could just do the random drug test

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post

    IMO Roach has a thing for cheaters lol First James Toney, then the rumors that he was gonna train Margarito, and now the Pacquiao scandal lol
    It is only floyd sr. who will be accused not jr. That's what i think.
    And i believe cintron and malignaggi should really be included on that law suit. This has steamrolled to a degrading matter for pac and mostly everyone is riding this hype. It's just the same as when everyone believed elvis is alive, or there is a loch ness monster. Bull shit. This law suit will shed more light coz it will actually prove pac is clean and i believe that so. Who can question the u.s. judiciary? Can arum and pac bribe his way to them?? Nope.
    ...or he could just do the random drug test
    And if he will? Then all of you haters will still find other excuses.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    An article in a boxing website Dec. 23 2009.
    In response to the release sent out Tuesday by Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions which stated that Mayweather vs. Pacquiao was “in jeopardy,” Bob Arum, chairman of Top Rank, the promoter of seven-division world champion Manny Pacquiao, had the following to say: “Let’s be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It’s not about being tested. Manny is onboard with that since it’s such a major concern of Floyd Mayweather, Jr. It’s about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures. Manny will submit to as many random urine tests requested. Regarding the blood tests, he will subject himself to three tests; one given in January during the week the fight is formally announced, one thirty days from the fight, no later than February 13, and the final one immediately following the fight, in Manny’s locker room. The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous.
    “Our suggestion is to utilize any of the independent agencies that work with the National Football League, the National Basketball Association or Major League Baseball, since they administer drug testing for their professional athletes.”
    New York-based athletic physician, Dr. Keith Pyne, a private injury consultant for NFL athletes and those who participate in running and combat sports, told AOL Fanhouse,
    “I have more than 800 guys who are special athletes who are all drug-tested. And the urine testing is sufficient that you won’t miss anything, especially with performance-enhancing drugs. So, yes, I believe that the urine testing is more than sufficient for boxing. If you’re using steroids, it’s going to come up for sure in urine. There’s no way it’s going to get through the liver and the kidney without being detected.”
    “If Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions are sincere in creating ‘a level playing field,’ as they stated in their release, our recommendations should put their minds at ease,” said Arum. “If not, one has to wonder if their motives are more about leveling the fight.”

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    It is only floyd sr. who will be accused not jr. That's what i think.
    And i believe cintron and malignaggi should really be included on that law suit. This has steamrolled to a degrading matter for pac and mostly everyone is riding this hype. It's just the same as when everyone believed elvis is alive, or there is a loch ness monster. Bull shit. This law suit will shed more light coz it will actually prove pac is clean and i believe that so. Who can question the u.s. judiciary? Can arum and pac bribe his way to them?? Nope.
    ...or he could just do the random drug test
    And if he will? Then all of you haters will still find other excuses.
    Excuse for what? All we are asking for is him to take the random drug screen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post

    ...or he could just do the random drug test
    And if he will? Then all of you haters will still find other excuses.
    Excuse for what? All we are asking for is him to take the random drug screen.
    Then if he comes out clean then what?
    Still other posters will degrade him. I bet they will say arum bribed them. I'm so tired hearing excuses after excuses. I just hope it will be over when pac proves he's clean.

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    And if he will? Then all of you haters will still find other excuses.
    Excuse for what? All we are asking for is him to take the random drug screen.
    Then if he comes out clean then what?
    Still other posters will degrade him. I bet they will say arum bribed them. I'm so tired hearing excuses after excuses. I just hope it will be over when pac proves he's clean.
    then if he comes out clean he'll fight Mayweather, Floyd will kick his ass, and Pacquiao will walk away with $40 mil, simple as that

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    Default Re: Pacquiao request Top Rank to help with Lawsuit

    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mad_takamura View Post
    And if he will? Then all of you haters will still find other excuses.
    Excuse for what? All we are asking for is him to take the random drug screen.
    Then if he comes out clean then what?
    Still other posters will degrade him. I bet they will say arum bribed them. I'm so tired hearing excuses after excuses. I just hope it will be over when pac proves he's clean.
    Most of the people here you are arguing with are not haters, they just see the situation for what it is. Mayweather camp asked for stricter drug testing.

    1.Pacquiao's camp instead of using that as an opportunity to show they were clean, started out talking about superstition and then videos of him getting a blood test right before the Hatton fight came out so that was untrue.

    2. Then they said it was because it would disrupt their schedule. Which it wouldn't, which has been proven by any Olympian who has broken a record and still been subjected to the same test.

    3. Then they said it would be unfair to Pacquiao even Mayweather would be subjected to the exact same test.

    4. Then they ran off and starting talking to Malignaggi's camp, even though everything besides the drug test had been agreed on.

    5. Then they started setting up a defamation lawsuit.

    You can call me a hater all you want, but this is the fight I want to see. The best defensive fighter of our time, against the best offensive fighter of our time. And I'm calling Pac out on it right now, because he is the one that's not making this happen, and all points raised are about a simple blood test that thousands of athletes are already subjected to.

    Don't you want to see this fight? Or do you prefer to a trial? Or better yet, do you want to see what Malignaggi adds to his legacy?
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