Could ODLH have beaten PBF?

[mattboxingfan]

He really didn't give Mayweather a run for his money, it was a relatively competitive fight which people aren't use to seeing, but Mayweather landed 207 to 122 punches. He outjabbed Oscar, and he landed more power punches. Ineffective aggression doesn't win fights, and Oscar wasn't barely landing 10 punches a round against Floyd, and those were 90% of the time glancing blows. Mayweather outboxed him and should have won 117-111 or 116-112. I can't believe how many rounds people felt Oscar won when Mayweather landed twice as many punches and three to four times as many clean punches in the same round. Oscar's jab wasn't that effective either, he only landed it 40 times the entire fight, and strategically it only took a couple of rounds for Mayweather to start countering over it with the right hand, and then Oscar stopped throwing it.

I don't think Oscar would have beaten Floyd earlier in his career, the keys that Oscar had when he faced Floyd as an older guy were better defensive skills and a little more patience. He tended to get sloppy when he was younger, and he has the same stamina problems. Also he was a lot bigger fighting Oscar at 154 than he was when he originally went up to the weight, and he wasn't that much slower. I actually think Mayweather beats a more inexperienced Oscar worse than he did, and I think Mayweather's Oscar would beat Vargas' Oscar for all the reasons said. He is bigger, much better defensively, smarter, better right hand, and only slightly slower.

Floyd fan by any chance?

[albsur2006]

It was a close fight. I remember I had it 8 rounds to 4 rounds (116-112) in favor of Mayweather. I was rooting for Mayweather and I remember being really worried when Oscar's jab proved to be so effective. But then Oscar was just following Floyd around and not really doing that much else. It was definitely a tough fight. I don't think there's anyway in hell that Oscar shoulda won that fight on any of those scorecards but it was definitely a tough fight. Floyd started opening his arsenal a bit in the mid rounds but then he closed it back up until the final two rounds. Oscar didn't look like the same Oscar from 1999-2001 but he looked sturdy and would have been a tough fight for anyone at 154.

[ElTerribleMorales]

It was a close fight. I remember I had it 8 rounds to 4 rounds (116-112) in favor of Mayweather. I was rooting for Mayweather and I remember being really worried when Oscar's jab proved to be so effective. But then Oscar was just following Floyd around and not really doing that much else. It was definitely a tough fight. I don't think there's anyway in hell that Oscar shoulda won that fight on any of those scorecards but it was definitely a tough fight. Floyd started opening his arsenal a bit in the mid rounds but then he closed it back up until the final two rounds. Oscar didn't look like the same Oscar from 1999-2001 but he looked sturdy and would have been a tough fight for anyone at 154.

that's how i had it, i felt that PBF won clearly but it was still closer than some make it out to be, i had it 116-112 for Mayweather as well, but it was against an already worn DLH, a fresher younger DHL (Vargas/MosleyII) would have given him all that he could handle, and IMO would beat Mayweather

[albsur2006]

It was a close fight. I remember I had it 8 rounds to 4 rounds (116-112) in favor of Mayweather. I was rooting for Mayweather and I remember being really worried when Oscar's jab proved to be so effective. But then Oscar was just following Floyd around and not really doing that much else. It was definitely a tough fight. I don't think there's anyway in hell that Oscar shoulda won that fight on any of those scorecards but it was definitely a tough fight. Floyd started opening his arsenal a bit in the mid rounds but then he closed it back up until the final two rounds. Oscar didn't look like the same Oscar from 1999-2001 but he looked sturdy and would have been a tough fight for anyone at 154.

that's how i had it, i felt that PBF won clearly but it was still closer than some make it out to be, i had it 116-112 for Mayweather as well, but it was against an already worn DLH, a fresher younger DHL (Vargas/MosleyII) would have given him all that he could handle, and IMO would beat Mayweather

I just don't see how any version of Oscar could have beat Floyd. Oscar is a lot more comfortable with a guy who comes forward and presses the action because then Oscar can counterpunch and show off his handspeed and footwork. Anytime Oscar has been in with an elite BOXER, not fighter, but boxer, he's struggled. Oscar is not effective at pressing the action and that's mainly because the guy never truly developed a right hand, he was primarily a one handed fighter for the most part.