Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
Now let me state, in no way I'm defending Manny Pac, he deserves to get all of the scrutiny and scorn for not submitting to the random blood test for PEDs. The fight with Mayweather is too important for legacies to pass up on the random blood testing.

But it also seems to me that Holyfield, Jones, Mosley, Toney gets a pass by many boxing fans. The level of scrutiny isn't there for them imo. All of them have been caught or link to PEDs. But it seems that they also have many apologists and it also seems that their legacies aren't questioned. So shouldn't the level of scrutiny and criticism be applied across the board?

Holyfield, as I have stated is my favorite HW in modern times, but it doesn't mean that I didn't have serious questions about PED usage that was link to him in years past. Especially the whole Evan Fields debacle that happened a few years ago.

For instance in another thread, there was an apologist for Shane Mosley saying he only used PEDs for a few fights, it's no big deal, etc.
So why do some guys gets a pass?
Honestly, it's because with boxing, more than some sports, we look back on the great ones with a certain type of nostalgia. Holyfield was found out by Sports Illustrated at a roider, RJJ supposedly failed that drug test in 2000 that was covered up I think, Toney has outright failed drug tests, and Mosley was implicated with the BALCO trial. All these guys have been in the steroid discussion, yet we pretty much don't look at them as cheats because we remember there old in-ring performances when thinking about them. Boxing more than any other sport, you remember individual performances. Plus, outta sight outta mind, these guys (except Mosley) really aren't at the forefront of the sport anymore so we don't hear much about them anymore so we really don't think about them. And when we do think about them, we think about great fights they were involved in.