For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
Hey, I'm with you on that, I want to see this fight just like everyone else. I wish the Nevada Commission would just make it a requirement and be done with it.
I feel the most for the Pacquaio fans that said all along, "Pac will take the random tests, he'll come up clean and he'll whoop Mayweather." I doubt any one of those things will happen now, never mind the lot.
We don't want to watch courtroom drama Pacquiao. What you're doing is disgraceful to the sport of boxing.
Please.
Mayweather's the disgraceful one. Instead of making the fight happen he slanders Pacquiao, and sets fire to Pacquiao's name by demanding tests that Rarley/NEVER used in professional boxing!
I don't know what's up with all the Pacquiao hatred on this forum. Even typically level headed posters are hating him. Pac man has done more for the sport than any other fighter the past couple years.
I don't see as how a boxing fan can't be a Pacquiao fan unless their vision is skewed by bias/ignorant dislike.
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
That is not quite true. I visit my legal court talk forum slightly less than saddos
Seriously though, prime athletes are picky, often superstitious. It's not hard to relate to someone feeling that giving blood 1-2 days before a fight would weaken them mentally.
Why make Pacquiao run through hoops in the first place? I guess I just dont see the "blatant" evidence everyone else does that Pacquiao's reluctance to jump through hoops and bend to Mayweathers idiotic antics incriminates him.
If Floyd had class/respect in the first place none of this would've happened.
Dont blame Pacquiao for this. It takes two parties to negotiate. I still think the fight will happen. This is just the "fight" before the fight. A bunch of posing. This type of thing isnt typical for Pacquiao, so blame PBF/GB for the delay. But dont expect Pacquiao to bend over to it
Whatever man, GBP/Mayweather are not the ones taking this initiative on the court side. Why should I care about Pac's superstitions? especially considering he's given blood within 2 days of a fight before (Morales I) and 14 days before (Hatton). Both were drum roll please............random......So now it's not so unprecedented is it?
This is just me talking here, but Pac is being a pussy.
And the statement I've made all along that "Pac is backing out of the fight because of a drug test" is still true.
You can enjoy your spin doctoring and casting blame back all you want that's your right, but Pacquiao is the one that refused to sign and it was because a drug test came to light.
Mayweather Sr. said Pacquiao was on steroids in September, that's the defamation we're talking about here right? If that's the case why was the lawsuit not put into motion until the final stage of contract signage? He already knew Mayweather had people in his camp (Mayweather Sr.) that thought he was doing some kind of PED. So if Manny let it slide for three months without a peep of recourse UNTIL it's announced that they want extra drug testing........................
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
see, theres some gray areas that some people dont know yet they still insist that they know inside out what the true issue is. manny never said he dont want to be tested. he just doesnt want to be tested so close to the fight. he is willing to be tested 30 days before and right after the fight. so do you think HGH or whatever it is wont be in his blood right after the fight? simple blood test? its random. that means they could also wake him up in the middle of the night or draw blood from him while he walks to the ring. whats so simple about that? try getting your blood drawn, even one veil and as soon as you're done get up and walk and lets see if you dont get dizzy.
Last edited by josef4334; 12-31-2009 at 10:57 PM.
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Manny, Roach, Arum all have said a lot of things. They had no less than 4 reasons of why they didn't want to take the drug test.
1. Superstition - whatever that means
2. Mental Weakness - really a top athlete at the top of a sport can't handle a drug test?
3. It would interupt the training schedule. - His training schedule is no more rigorous than that of olympic athletes and yet they can all handle it.
4. It gives control to team mayweather - who cares it's the last point of the negotiations
5. It's unprecidented, Manny has given blood randomly at least two times to my knowledge both times within 30 days of a fight.
6. He's going to court - this one is true.
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
pac can used this forum to show how far his name has been slandered. lol
also, i see it funny how people are saying manny is giving up $40M by not taking a simple blood test. no one seem to realize that floyd is also giving up the same amount by not coming up with simple compromise of an effective test that would be acceptable to both parties. teamfloyd did say that pac would be easy work inside the ring. so why insists on their demands and not come up with a counter proposal since teampac did say that they're ok with random testing as long as there would be none of it a mere couple of days before the fight. maybe mayweather's team should just find a compromise with their demands. why not propose an effective test that would not require blood drawing so close to the fight? pacquiao after all is an easy fight according to the mayweathers and they're blowing away an easy $40M by insisting on a test that's never been done before in any professional championship fight, a test they never thought of asking any previous opponent before. i should say both sides are being stupid not to work this out.
i think pacquiao and mayweather can still come to a compromise regarding the testing and make the fight happen. the script isn't finish yet imo. the pac-dlh fight was also called off but eventually still got made.
Last edited by KKisser; 01-01-2010 at 02:21 AM.
Mayweathers camp did compromise.
Look at the facts, each team had a significant issue with the fight.
Pac's team was concerned that Mayweather would come in over weight. Mayweather agreed to the 10 million per pound clause to guarantee he would come in within the welterweight limit.
Mayweather's team was concerned Pacquiao was using PEDs. So they asked for a test to prove he was clean to the best of the ability of modern science. Pacquiao started making random excuses THEN ODLH came out and said he had concerns blah blah blah. And then Pacquiao sued instead of agreeing to the test.
Someone that files a lawsuit is not looking to negotiate.
For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.
they compromised regarding the weight penalty but not their demand of olympic type testing wherein they could draw blood from manny even within 48 hours from the fight.
Pacquiao trainer Freddie Roach said his fighter is willing to comply with strict drug-testing standards, but Roach won’t allow Pacquiao to have blood drawn 48 hours before the fight.
Ellerbe said he would not let Mayweather enter the ring unless Pacquiao agreed to it.
Testing issues could derail Mayweather-Pacquiao - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports
I should probably post a new thread but other probably will anyway and I think it belongs here.
Mayweather Jr. can take the steam out of this Lawsuit even for most everyone named in it simply by fighting Pacquiao. If he fights Pacquiao this March and they make more money than ever before then measuring the cost of defamation will be very very difficult.
http://www.examiner.com/x-19632-Salt-Lake-City-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d1-Mayweather-has-until-Monday-to-take-Pacquiaos-drug-testing-deal
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