Welcome back Kelly Pavlik

[Mr140]

Ok all i got to say is this, i think people are overrating Paul and Martinz. I mean sure there good fighters, but they both are there to be hit Paul the most. Also neither has faced a truth prime middle weight either. I can see Pavlik knocking both out at middle weight if it happens. Also just because Hopkins beat Pavlik doesn't mean these to fighters can. That fight was at 170 and Hopkins is more talented then both combined pretty much. Either way won't even know till the fight gets made, so guess we got to wait.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

Ok all i got to say is this, i think people are overrating Paul and Martinz. I mean sure there good fighters, but they both are there to be hit Paul the most. Also neither has faced a truth prime middle weight either. I can see Pavlik knocking both out at middle weight if it happens. Also just because Hopkins beat Pavlik doesn't mean these to fighters can. That fight was at 170 and Hopkins is more talented then both combined pretty much. Either way won't even know till the fight gets made, so guess we got to wait.

I don't think people are over rating them at this juncture, but giving them what they deserve... Two crowd pleasing guys who both have good skills that no one really wants to fight that put on a good show... I don't see huge Martinez or Williams contingents growing... I just see people giving them their due. Agreed on the not fought a prime middleweight front.

[Youngblood]

This is Kelly's make or break year. Let's face it, he had a terrible year last year both in and out of the ring. Moreso out. Yea he has demons. But who doesn't? The question is, can he control them and overcome them?

I suppose we'll find out. The true measure of Pavlik will be how he handles the adversity. How he conducts himself in and out of the ring this year. I haven't given up on him, like I see so many others have. I think he deserves another chance. I think he is capable and has redeeming qualities. Hopefully he does too.

If he screws it up, then he never appreciated the opportunity he had. Much as I believe a majority of boxing fans are fickle and can't wait to bag on and drop a fighter for another or jump on the haterade train, in some cases it is deservedly so. I don't think he is there yet. But after this year we'll see.

I'm still rooting for him.

[El Kabong]

You have to wonder if Hopkins just laid out the blueprint on how to beat the guy for everyone to see, or if Kelly i sjust feeling like that. I think Jermain Taylor gave him a good run in the rematch and had JT not been so damaged from the battles with Hopkins and the previous KO I could assure you he would have beaten Pavlik. JT just faded out quick, and sometimes that happens to "The man that follows the man".

I think the major issues for Kelly are: he's not fighting often enough, he's in a deadzone in Youngstown, he's gotten thoroughly schooled, and Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez are VERY dangerous fighters right now both could not only beat Pavlik but knock him out, and I think another issue is there's no where for Kelly to run, he's looked like shit above 160...I mean bad enough to the point where you could see a mediocre fighter at 168 totally school him and if that doesn't get fixed 2010 could be Kelly Pavlik's LAST year of boxing especially if he takes another loss as bad or worse than the Hopkins loss.

[PRIDE OF BOSTON]

You have to wonder if Hopkins just laid out the blueprint on how to beat the guy for everyone to see, or if Kelly i sjust feeling like that. I think Jermain Taylor gave him a good run in the rematch and had JT not been so damaged from the battles with Hopkins and the previous KO I could assure you he would have beaten Pavlik. JT just faded out quick, and sometimes that happens to "The man that follows the man".

I think the major issues for Kelly are: he's not fighting often enough, he's in a deadzone in Youngstown, he's gotten thoroughly schooled, and Paul Williams and Sergio Martinez are VERY dangerous fighters right now both could not only beat Pavlik but knock him out, and I think another issue is there's no where for Kelly to run, he's looked like shit above 160...I mean bad enough to the point where you could see a mediocre fighter at 168 totally school him and if that doesn't get fixed 2010 could be Kelly Pavlik's LAST year of boxing especially if he takes another loss as bad or worse than the Hopkins loss.

Hard to take a worse loss than that... I mean, that was a Lacy/ Calzaghe like schooling... I think the only difference was the huge contingent(including me) that thought Lacy was gonna decapitate Joe. Taking anywhere close to another schooling like that would ruin any elite fighter.

[Mr140]

I dont think Paul or Martiniz hit as hard as Hopkins. Also Hopkins outboxed Pavlik at 170 and he atg as well. Paul and Martiniz are 154 pounds who dont even have same boxing skill as Hopkins. Also I can easly see Martiniz getting pushed around by Pavlik by his size and power. Then theres Paul who is there to be hit and which while lead to him getting knocked out. Pavlik is far from prefect but i dont see the jr middle weights giving him trouble to be honest.