Slander for slander

[Gandalf]

I agree, that's why I like this place. On the whole we are civil and are able to express ourselves without resorting to pointless and petty personal attacks. We have points of view and we express them, but there is little need nor reason to degrade other posters in the process.

On the whole this place is pretty cool.

[Youngblood]

Way back when Paulie started this open talk of Pac taking roids I suggested then it could end up in libel. That it even should. His voice isn't quite as loud as Mayweathers tho nor does it carry as much weight so when I saw the Mayweather camp doing it also, I thought to myself, well this could easily be a libel case. And I sorta wished there would be some kinda court case. But not at the expense of the fight. People need to realize you can't say things as such unless you can prove it to be truth.

I want for you to consider for a minute me taking your name and doing the worst possibly thing with it. Then telling you, personally, prove otherwise, or you are guilty. And it might be very difficult to prove. And maybe just my claim alone will damage you. Lets say you are applying for jobs in the future, and your name when punched into google by future potential employers comes up with all these allegations. Chances are, you are already damaged goods in some form of public opinion now and subjected to the reasoning behind libel laws.

This ofc put Pac in an awkward position. But I do think the right course if he is clean is to prove to them he is in fact clean. And then sue their damn asses off. And if he isn't clean, then o well, guess they were right.

I think there is a pretty big difference between a weight issue which we know Floyd already took advantage of with JMM, accepting a fine in lieu an advantage of coming in a bit over, and cheating with drugs.

I understand his actions, but as a fan who wants to see the fight happen, I don't like them because it may not happen. But I'm not entirely sure where to put the blame.

[boozeboxer]

I have resorted to personal attacks.

[erik_corrales]

after smoking a bowl of some mediocre herb and reading on this and past articles, i've now realized that all this is hype. pure hype. well there may be hidden agendas for both fighters but they're both using for both their own advantages. and they're hyping up the fight at the same time.

this fight will definitely happen 2010.(shit i keep thinking its still 2009)

top rank, GBP, team pacquiao and team mayweather:

[Gandalf]

after smoking a bowl of some mediocre herb and reading on this and past articles, i've now realized that all this is hype. pure hype. well there may be hidden agendas for both fighters but they're both using for both their own advantages. and they're hyping up the fight at the same time.

this fight will definitely happen 2010.(shit i keep thinking its still 2009)

top rank, GBP, team pacquiao and team mayweather :

That is one way to look at it, but that would sure be one screwed up way to hype a fight.

[erik_corrales]

That is one way to look at it, but that would sure be one screwed up way to hype a fight.

this is boxing 2010. ufc is stepping up and boxing has to step up too. they already had this when bj penn was accusing GSP of roids.

i also notice great fights coming up this year for fox. it was bob arum's deal to compete with the super6 i guess. boxing sure is stepping.

[Gandalf]

That is one way to look at it, but that would sure be one screwed up way to hype a fight.

this is boxing 2010. ufc is stepping up and boxing has to step up too. they already had this when bj penn was accusing GSP of roids.

i also notice great fights coming up this year for fox. it was bob arum's deal to compete with the super6 i guess. boxing sure is stepping.

No, you are wrong. Manny has chickened out. This is no hype.

Let's just face up to the facts. The fight is off.

[fan johnny]

after smoking a bowl of some mediocre herb and reading on this and past articles, i've now realized that all this is hype. pure hype. well there may be hidden agendas for both fighters but they're both using for both their own advantages. and they're hyping up the fight at the same time.

this fight will definitely happen 2010.(shit i keep thinking its still 2009)

top rank, GBP, team pacquiao and team mayweather:

I've been 'hoping' that is the case. If it is, 98% of us have been snookered. I give them Boxings 2010 greatest con game award!

[CFH]

I have resorted to personal attacks.

I view your very existence as a deep personal insult.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Way back when Paulie started this open talk of Pac taking roids I suggested then it could end up in libel. That it even should. His voice isn't quite as loud as Mayweathers tho nor does it carry as much weight so when I saw the Mayweather camp doing it also, I thought to myself, well this could easily be a libel case. And I sorta wished there would be some kinda court case. But not at the expense of the fight. People need to realize you can't say things as such unless you can prove it to be truth.

I want for you to consider for a minute me taking your name and doing the worst possibly thing with it. Then telling you, personally, prove otherwise, or you are guilty. And it might be very difficult to prove. And maybe just my claim alone will damage you. Lets say you are applying for jobs in the future, and your name when punched into google by future potential employers comes up with all these allegations. Chances are, you are already damaged goods in some form of public opinion now and subjected to the reasoning behind libel laws.

This ofc put Pac in an awkward position. But I do think the right course if he is clean is to prove to them he is in fact clean. And then sue their damn asses off. And if he isn't clean, then o well, guess they were right.

I think there is a pretty big difference between a weight issue which we know Floyd already took advantage of with JMM, accepting a fine in lieu an advantage of coming in a bit over, and cheating with drugs.

I understand his actions, but as a fan who wants to see the fight happen, I don't like them because it may not happen. But I'm not entirely sure where to put the blame.

I'm actually quite glad that someone got to fuck with Roach and Pac like they've been fucking with fighters for some time now. Guess it took someone like Mayweather to do it. Good on him

[Youngblood]

Way back when Paulie started this open talk of Pac taking roids I suggested then it could end up in libel. That it even should. His voice isn't quite as loud as Mayweathers tho nor does it carry as much weight so when I saw the Mayweather camp doing it also, I thought to myself, well this could easily be a libel case. And I sorta wished there would be some kinda court case. But not at the expense of the fight. People need to realize you can't say things as such unless you can prove it to be truth.

I want for you to consider for a minute me taking your name and doing the worst possibly thing with it. Then telling you, personally, prove otherwise, or you are guilty. And it might be very difficult to prove. And maybe just my claim alone will damage you. Lets say you are applying for jobs in the future, and your name when punched into google by future potential employers comes up with all these allegations. Chances are, you are already damaged goods in some form of public opinion now and subjected to the reasoning behind libel laws.

This ofc put Pac in an awkward position. But I do think the right course if he is clean is to prove to them he is in fact clean. And then sue their damn asses off. And if he isn't clean, then o well, guess they were right.

I think there is a pretty big difference between a weight issue which we know Floyd already took advantage of with JMM, accepting a fine in lieu an advantage of coming in a bit over, and cheating with drugs.

I understand his actions, but as a fan who wants to see the fight happen, I don't like them because it may not happen. But I'm not entirely sure where to put the blame.

I'm actually quite glad that someone got to fuck with Roach and Pac like they've been fucking with fighters for some time now. Guess it took someone like Mayweather to do it. Good on him

My statement had/has nothing to do with bias. Only about libel.

Yours clearly does.

Big diff.

I think what has happened is this situation is mostly prefight hype, that ended up getting colored outside the lines. I don't think they were reading from a script (both sides), but from a playbook without guidelines. "Lets hype this thing!" And in doing so, Mayweathers took a step too far and forgot about the law with how serious of an allegation it was. Unless they know something we all don't, they could end up settling a big lawsuit out of court and it costing them. Plus could have derailed the whole deal. I wouldn't stand for anyone suggesting I was juicing either, and trying to belittle all my accomplishments, past and present. I'd sue their asses too for the next person to think twice about before trying the same thing.