Pacfans - Why the "30 day" without test rule is BS!!

[The Congressman]

I think Pac should just take the random test's, Floyd has agreed to take the same test's and to be honest I think it should be mandatory for world title fights to be tested in this way anyway.

True, Floyd has agreed to take the same test's. But he picked the particular agency to the testing (fishy). The NSAC must mandate their testing procedure asap.

Floyd has also agreed to change the agency too though!!

Not yet. Mayweather has until Monday to take Pacquiao’s drug testing deal

[josef4334]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

[killersheep]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Haha I was kind of wondering the same thing I wonder how many searches for "PED testing" google got in the last week.

[josef4334]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Haha I was kind of wondering the same thing I wonder how many searches for "PED testing" google got in the last week.

i know man. but sometimes we all have to just let the issue simmer instead of just trying to justify our points. i admit im a big manny fan. i dont support his decision to refuse the blood tests.he has his claims about it and i cant take that away from him. on the other hand, i do support his decision to sue mayweather and gbp for accusing him of something without any proof or evidence. i understand that in order to prove somebody that they are making up stories you have to subject to that persons demand to clear your name BECAUSE i have been living in the US for quite a while i understand how it works here. manny on the other hand looks at the allegations as an insult to him and he resorts to a "very filipino" practice of not bowing down because of the culture he is in.

[Althugz]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist..I don't claim to be a steroid/medical expert, just someone who is not naive to the fact that PED use is rampant in top level sports.

However, I was once naive...that ended when I was around 16-17 and got into a sport/entertainment where I told people my goals and was laughed at because I wanted to do it "naturally"

I found out everyone I thought was natural in my club, wasn't.

This prompted me into research and educating myself about them. Turns out, I didn't really feel that was where I wanted to go..but I also found out that there was a massive amount of naivity to PED's.

I could reel off a few names of boxers who use PED's that you would ALL know...and not just accuseations. I've heard them talking about use, seen texts, etc

The link I provided was purely for those stating that "Pac has agreed to the tests 1 day after the fight! So what is the problem, he would be found positive if he was using"

It wasn't provided to come off as some expert...it was for the benefit of those who don't know detection times...but yeah I bet the keywords "PED testing" or "PED use" were definitely on Google Trends list this week.

[JJson]

The fans of Pacman are engaging in some of the worse forms of hypocrisy imaginable, and so is Pacman's camp. If the situation was reversed, the same people who are now being critical of random blood testing would be calling for PBF head and his imprisonment. But that is the greatness of America. It allows you the freedom to be a hypocrite

Pacman's fans are critical of PBF for fighting Marquez. Well PBF began fighting at 130, just 4 lbs above the weight division Pacman started at. PBF fought and KO'd one of the most frightening freaks at his prime. I refer of course to Diego Corrales, who in his prime would have eaten up Pacman, Cotto and everyone else. And as for PBF being in it for the money, waal, I guess America also allows freedom for people to criticize others for being smart and practical. People see what they wish to see when they have a favorite horse in a race.

Pacman's hysterical outburst to a demand for random drug testing should cause us all to think, Hmmmm, methinks he doth protest too much. Fighters have been saying all kinds of things about each other in the run up to fights from time immemorial. Like someone mentioned, the same people who are claiming that accusing Pacman of using PEDs amounts to libel have no problem libelling PBF. That alone should be sufficient to identify the trajectory of the arguments on behalf of Pacman.

[The Congressman]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist.

Yes you are. Like most of us here.

[hitmanhatton]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist.

Yes you are. Like most of us here.

thanks for that final judgment oh holy one....

[The Congressman]

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist.

Yes you are. Like most of us here.

thanks for that final judgment oh holy one....

Ok steroid expert.

[Althugz]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist.

Yes you are. Like most of us here.

Thanks for reading my WHOLE post beyond that sentence

[brucelee]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist..I don't claim to be a steroid/medical expert, just someone who is not naive to the fact that PED use is rampant in top level sports.

However, I was once naive...that ended when I was around 16-17 and got into a sport/entertainment where I told people my goals and was laughed at because I wanted to do it "naturally"

I found out everyone I thought was natural in my club, wasn't.

This prompted me into research and educating myself about them. Turns out, I didn't really feel that was where I wanted to go..but I also found out that there was a massive amount of naivity to PED's.

I could reel off a few names of boxers who use PED's that you would ALL know...and not just accuseations. I've heard them talking about use, seen texts, etc

The link I provided was purely for those stating that "Pac has agreed to the tests 1 day after the fight! So what is the problem, he would be found positive if he was using"

It wasn't provided to come off as some expert...it was for the benefit of those who don't know detection times...but yeah I bet the keywords "PED testing" or "PED use" were definitely on Google Trends list this week.

hahaha. same experience with me. my trainor was offering me some medicine that would give me more muscles. Good thing I did not take it because of my medical history. I don't know what it was but I guess it must be some steroids.

Honestly, I'm ignorant as to these steroids thing.

Will a drug testing after the fight still detect the use of PEDs?

If the answer is yes, then why the random testing?

Is it because ODLH might be scheming this issue so he can have reasons to fight again? I know he's wanting to go back to the ring. He'll have the proper excuse if he makes this issue bigger.

Just my two cents.

[TheBranMan]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist..I don't claim to be a steroid/medical expert, just someone who is not naive to the fact that PED use is rampant in top level sports.

However, I was once naive...that ended when I was around 16-17 and got into a sport/entertainment where I told people my goals and was laughed at because I wanted to do it "naturally"

I found out everyone I thought was natural in my club, wasn't.

This prompted me into research and educating myself about them. Turns out, I didn't really feel that was where I wanted to go..but I also found out that there was a massive amount of naivity to PED's.

I could reel off a few names of boxers who use PED's that you would ALL know...and not just accuseations. I've heard them talking about use, seen texts, etc

The link I provided was purely for those stating that "Pac has agreed to the tests 1 day after the fight! So what is the problem, he would be found positive if he was using"

It wasn't provided to come off as some expert...it was for the benefit of those who don't know detection times...but yeah I bet the keywords "PED testing" or "PED use" were definitely on Google Trends list this week.

hahaha. same experience with me. my trainor was offering me some medicine that would give me more muscles. Good thing I did not take it because of my medical history. I don't know what it was but I guess it must be some steroids.

Honestly, I'm ignorant as to these steroids thing.

Will a drug testing after the fight still detect the use of PEDs?

If the answer is yes, then why the random testing?

Is it because ODLH might be scheming this issue so he can have reasons to fight again? I know he's wanting to go back to the ring. He'll have the proper excuse if he makes this issue bigger.

Just my two cents.

The answer is NO. There are a number of PEDs of which you can discontinue use a few days before the fight, which will get them out of your system, but the effects will still be active. If you discontinue use at the right time, you'll always test negative.

[brucelee]

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist..I don't claim to be a steroid/medical expert, just someone who is not naive to the fact that PED use is rampant in top level sports.

However, I was once naive...that ended when I was around 16-17 and got into a sport/entertainment where I told people my goals and was laughed at because I wanted to do it "naturally"

I found out everyone I thought was natural in my club, wasn't.

This prompted me into research and educating myself about them. Turns out, I didn't really feel that was where I wanted to go..but I also found out that there was a massive amount of naivity to PED's.

I could reel off a few names of boxers who use PED's that you would ALL know...and not just accuseations. I've heard them talking about use, seen texts, etc

The link I provided was purely for those stating that "Pac has agreed to the tests 1 day after the fight! So what is the problem, he would be found positive if he was using"

It wasn't provided to come off as some expert...it was for the benefit of those who don't know detection times...but yeah I bet the keywords "PED testing" or "PED use" were definitely on Google Trends list this week.

hahaha. same experience with me. my trainor was offering me some medicine that would give me more muscles. Good thing I did not take it because of my medical history. I don't know what it was but I guess it must be some steroids.

Honestly, I'm ignorant as to these steroids thing.

Will a drug testing after the fight still detect the use of PEDs?

If the answer is yes, then why the random testing?

Is it because ODLH might be scheming this issue so he can have reasons to fight again? I know he's wanting to go back to the ring. He'll have the proper excuse if he makes this issue bigger.

Just my two cents.

The answer is NO. There are a number of PEDs of which you can discontinue use a few days before the fight, which will get them out of your system, but the effects will still be active. If you discontinue use at the right time, you'll always test negative.

Are you an authority on PEDS branman? or are you getting these ideas from the Internet? If not. please stop making insinuations here.

Pac agreed on a RANDOM drug testing before and after the fight as long as it's not too close (e.g. 2 two days before the fight).

So Pac would have no opportunity to use the RIGHT TIME your trying to insinuate here.

Would that be good enough for you?

[hitmanhatton]

this issue has been beaten to death since this whole thing surface. quit making new threads about it. there is no compromise for this. and who the hell are we to impose to other people why this is bs and that random testing is right? DID ALL OF A SUDDEN SOME OF US BECAME DOCTORS AND STEROIDS EXPERTS? the fight is dead and you could blame either side to whose responsible for this fight not happening. i dont care anymore. i blame both sides. i blame floyd sr. for accusing pac without any proof and i blame pac for not proving himself. i say kill your pride pac. prove them wrong? but who am i to judge.. and also goes for whoever is reading this! who are you?

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist..I don't claim to be a steroid/medical expert, just someone who is not naive to the fact that PED use is rampant in top level sports.

However, I was once naive...that ended when I was around 16-17 and got into a sport/entertainment where I told people my goals and was laughed at because I wanted to do it "naturally"

I found out everyone I thought was natural in my club, wasn't.

This prompted me into research and educating myself about them. Turns out, I didn't really feel that was where I wanted to go..but I also found out that there was a massive amount of naivity to PED's.

I could reel off a few names of boxers who use PED's that you would ALL know...and not just accuseations. I've heard them talking about use, seen texts, etc

The link I provided was purely for those stating that "Pac has agreed to the tests 1 day after the fight! So what is the problem, he would be found positive if he was using"

It wasn't provided to come off as some expert...it was for the benefit of those who don't know detection times...but yeah I bet the keywords "PED testing" or "PED use" were definitely on Google Trends list this week.

hahaha. same experience with me. my trainor was offering me some medicine that would give me more muscles. Good thing I did not take it because of my medical history. I don't know what it was but I guess it must be some steroids.

Honestly, I'm ignorant as to these steroids thing.

Will a drug testing after the fight still detect the use of PEDs?

If the answer is yes, then why the random testing?

Is it because ODLH might be scheming this issue so he can have reasons to fight again? I know he's wanting to go back to the ring. He'll have the proper excuse if he makes this issue bigger.

Just my two cents.

no testing after the fight will most likley be pointless, athletes / fighters dont take PED's for the event itself i.e the fight... they will nbe used during training so a greater benefitt can be gotten from that training , lower chance of small niggling injurys disrupting training patterns, quicker recovery etc etc

[brucelee]

Look, I'm not a fly-by Google search artist..I don't claim to be a steroid/medical expert, just someone who is not naive to the fact that PED use is rampant in top level sports.

However, I was once naive...that ended when I was around 16-17 and got into a sport/entertainment where I told people my goals and was laughed at because I wanted to do it "naturally"

I found out everyone I thought was natural in my club, wasn't.

This prompted me into research and educating myself about them. Turns out, I didn't really feel that was where I wanted to go..but I also found out that there was a massive amount of naivity to PED's.

I could reel off a few names of boxers who use PED's that you would ALL know...and not just accuseations. I've heard them talking about use, seen texts, etc

The link I provided was purely for those stating that "Pac has agreed to the tests 1 day after the fight! So what is the problem, he would be found positive if he was using"

It wasn't provided to come off as some expert...it was for the benefit of those who don't know detection times...but yeah I bet the keywords "PED testing" or "PED use" were definitely on Google Trends list this week.

hahaha. same experience with me. my trainor was offering me some medicine that would give me more muscles. Good thing I did not take it because of my medical history. I don't know what it was but I guess it must be some steroids.

Honestly, I'm ignorant as to these steroids thing.

Will a drug testing after the fight still detect the use of PEDs?

If the answer is yes, then why the random testing?

Is it because ODLH might be scheming this issue so he can have reasons to fight again? I know he's wanting to go back to the ring. He'll have the proper excuse if he makes this issue bigger.

Just my two cents.

no testing after the fight will most likley be pointless, athletes / fighters dont take PED's for the event itself i.e the fight... they will nbe used during training so a greater benefitt can be gotten from that training , lower chance of small niggling injurys disrupting training patterns, quicker recovery etc etc

how did you know about it Donny? Are you using PEDs too during your training? Is it legal to use it during training?