How about Mayweather vs. Williams?

**Rantcatrat** · 01-05-2010 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by blegit

Yeah, I would like to see that. But it would probably have to be at 154. I too think PWill's body has grown out of reaching down to 147. He has been in the higher weights for too lond and if he did make 147 I think it would be a mistake. Mosley/Williams at 154 is the fight. Unless PBF was willing to go 154. And Pac/Foreman is a farce. Roach is looking for the path of least resistance to history. Paper accomplishments. David Diaz at 135, war ridden and drained Cotto at 145 for his title, You'reWho Foreman I mean Yuri Foreman at 154... Give us respectable fights Pac if this is to be your last year.

I agree David Diaz was the easy choice at 135 and that Foreman would be the easy choice at 154 although because of the size disparity, it will be a more difficult fight than many may think. Cotto was not the path of least resistance. No way. That isn't giving Cotto the credit he deserves. Cotto was a legitimate welterweight, a top three welterweight. In regards to the weight, Cotto weighed 145 for his last fight and had no problems making the weight in the actual fight. Also, in terms of a career, Pacquiao has definitely NOT taken the path of least resistance.

To see a good example of a path of least resistance, just go check Mayweather's resume over the last four or five years.

Williams is the wrong fight for Shane. Shane had trouble with Vernon and the same would happen with Williams. He knows that and won't get in the ring with Williams. A Cotto rematch would be a good fight for Shane assuming he gets by Berto. PBF won't fight him or any other legitimate welterweight.

**DaxxKahn** · 01-05-2010 02:48 PM

Doubt it would happen but very interesting bout....

I would like to see how Floyd handles a guy that tall and rangy with the work rate Williams has.....

I would also like to see if Williams can manage to fight tall and not get in close giving Floyd a chance to counter......

If not for the height I go with Floyd but again if Williams gives the height away then that takes away any advantage he has technically

**JT Rock** · 01-05-2010 05:44 PM

Those scenarios are all find and dandy, I am a huge fan of Williams and have been for a while.

3 things that concern me about him

1) His best defense is his work rate and volume closely followed by his head

2) I'm not sure he and Martinez hasn't lost a step or 3 after than savage war they were in.

3) He has a bit of vulnerability because of the above mentioned things, couple that with the potential losing a bit of himself from his last fight and draining himself to make Welter would be easy pickings for a sharpshooter like Floyd especially knowing he dosent use his height advantage.

**Taeth** · 01-06-2010 01:33 AM

AFter watching Sergio Martinez and Carlos Quintana go against Paul Williams there are honestly still people who believe Mayweather would have that much trouble with Williams? He is way too good for Paul Williams who isn't fast enough or hits hard/accurate enough to keep Mayweather honest.

**Rantcatrat** · 01-06-2010 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Taeth

AFter watching Sergio Martinez and Carlos Quintana go against Paul Williams there are honestly still people who believe Mayweather would have that much trouble with Williams? He is way too good for Paul Williams who isn't fast enough or hits hard/accurate enough to keep Mayweather honest.

For me it is more about the unknown - I have never seen Mayweather fight a bigger longer fighter other than Oscar, but Williams makes Oscar look small. Mayweather would be at a four inch height disadvantage and a foot reach disadvantage.

**generalbulldog** · 01-06-2010 12:38 PM

I seriously doubt a fight with P. Will is an easy fight for Floyd because of what you saw in the Martinez-Williams fight. I just see P. Will as a bigger, faster, stronger, and better chin version of Judah.

**killersheep** · 01-06-2010 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I seriously doubt a fight with P. Will is an easy fight for Floyd because of what you saw in the Martinez-Williams fight. I just see P. Will as a bigger, faster, stronger, and better chin version of Judah.

So how is he like Judah?

**Taeth** · 01-09-2010 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I seriously doubt a fight with P. Will is an easy fight for Floyd because of what you saw in the Martinez-Williams fight. I just see P. Will as a bigger, faster, stronger, and better chin version of Judah.

DId you see how much Sergio Martinez, a guy slower than Judah, was fast than Paul Williams?

The only thing Paul Williams is bigger, he takes a shot better, and he has a higher output, but he isn't anywhere near to as good technically, nor is he anywhere near as quick as Judah.

**Hulk** · 01-08-2010 04:50 AM

I would rather see Williams give Martinez a rematch. I think a lot of people feel Martinez won that fight. And it was a great action packed fight.

**Pugilistic** · 01-10-2010 12:06 PM

It would never happen, because Mayweather doesn't want none.

Regarding a fight, I find it pretty even really.

Mayweather has the boxing skills to outbox Williams but he does seem to lack a workrate nowadays.

To beat Williams you need to counter effectively but also have to maintain a good workrate to keep him off. Can Mayweather do that for 12 ?? I'm not sure.

I could see Williams winning based on making Mayweather fight at a faster pace than he likes to and with his length and reach, it could be a very bad fight for Floyd.

I think Williams should forget 147, he's too big and too much of a risk to get fights there.

He should focus on 154 and 160.

**Master** · 01-10-2010 01:16 PM

Has Mayweather even got the ability to be a top fighter any more, it has been 2 years, fighting a lightweight and now Hatton's brother says he has not.