End of Day 2 of Mediation - No Agreement - They say fight is off

[Diane]

This won't be a popular post by most of you, but below was my prediction that I made when the fight was first being discussed.

I stand by this statement, and still believe it to be true.

However I will say, that if Manny has nothing to hide, he should just take the damn test, just to shut them up.

I guess that I'm also hoping that Manny does not have anything to hide, because it would just kill me to know that Miguel's only two losses, came at the hands of two cheaters, and that both of them thought that they needed something extra to beat Miguel. That would make me lose a lot of faith in this sport, and I don't want to lose faith.

Mayweather played his cards right, and now he doesn't have to get into a high risk fight, and comes out of this with Manny being the bad guy. Just like I said.


BTW this post was part of my thread that I started about Mayweather to possibly face Matthew Hatton.

Tune up my a$$.

Mayweather is all low risk, high reward these days. He knows that if he fights one of these guys in the US, he would not be able to sell out the arena, but take it on the road over to UK, and he knows that no matter who he's fighting, it will get sold out.

Do you really think that he's going to get into the ring with Manny? I sure as $hit don't, he's to afraid of losing that zero on his record. Mayweather will make such ridiculous demands during any negotiations, that it will make it impossible to strike a deal. Then he'll put all the blame on Manny and his team, saying that Manny didn't want to fight him.

Just guessing here, but I wouldn't be surprised if the source for this story is Mayweather Sr., he talks to one of the main writers of the site all the time.

[bcollins]

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

[Greig]

I can't believe this.

What a circus, what a joke. I think really Floyd and Pac should be ashamed, but especially Pac. Nobody LIKES to give blood, but seriously, as a world champion boxer - HARDEN THE FUCK UP.

[Andre]

I can't believe this.

What a circus, what a joke. I think really Floyd and Pac should be ashamed, but especially Pac. Nobody LIKES to give blood, but seriously, as a world champion boxer - HARDEN THE FUCK UP.

Thats just an excuse,He must be guilty and hiding something, give me 30 minutes with him he would skip into the room to give blood ,phobias are easily fixed these days even with females with long standing blind panic styled ones with snakes and spiders. There are people in his country, all countries that could fix that one up in no time flat.

[eagle]

I just hope that from now on anyone Manny wishes to fight demands the tests so he has no one left. What a baby girl.

[milmascaras1]

pacroids fans over at his websites are trying to make it sound like mayweather jr. is the one chickening out. these cats would say anything to save face. but the fact remains is, mayweather jr. definitely wants this fight. it is pacroido who is balking at taking a simple blood test. i guess actions speak louder than words.

[Nameless]

I would be extremely surprised if it didn't happen. Perhaps not march, but september or something like that. the only thing that I hope are that Manny doesn't have something to hide and that it is not to finish his lawsuit to then attack the fight.

[mnmc10]

f@ck the both of them for not fighting each other and a special f@ck you pac for letting your fans down!

[KananKrus]

Pacquiao was willing to give blood tests as late as 24 days before the fight and additionally if still needed, right after the fight. This surely ensures a satisfaction for both camps. One camp for concern on steroids use, and the other for a continuity for a "ritual" but proven winning fight preparations.

This was the concession that the Pac group were willing to accomodate. However, the Mayweathers said no, as they wanted random blood tests to take place right up until seconds before the fight, this was unfortunately, disagreeable to Manny and rightfully so.

Pacquiao, as far as he is concerned, has nothing to hide. He plainly is not comfortable being randomly tested for the disruption it creates on his fight preparations. Likewise, it also has a history as a recipe for a bad result, (Morales vs Pac I) where he was tested days before the fight and he immediately felt enormously weakened as a result and to never achieve peak form atop the ring.

What else can be said....

Smokescreen works at Saddo!

[Nameless]

Pacquiao was willing to give blood tests as late as 24 days before the fight and additionally if still needed, right after the fight. This surely ensures a satisfaction for both camps. One camp for concern on steroids use, and the other for a continuity for a "ritual" but proven winning fight preparations.

This was the concession that the Pac group were willing to accomodate. However, the Mayweathers said no, as they wanted random blood tests to take place right up until seconds before the fight, this was unfortunately, disagreeable to Manny and rightfully so.

Pacquiao, as far as he is concerned, has nothing to hide. He plainly is not comfortable being randomly tested for the disruption it creates on his fight preparations. Likewise, it also has a history as a recipe for a bad result, (Morales vs Pac I) where he was tested days before the fight and he immediately felt enormously weakened as a result and to never achieve peak form atop the ring.

What else can be said....

Smokescreen works at Saddo!

It's bullshit, you can't be weakened by that!! When I was testing medicine, I could have 20 blood draw in 2 days, small amount. I could do whatever I wanted and even went doing sport after the week-end. IT is impossible and it is total crap that it "weakens" Pacman, everybody knows that. Now the fight is off and suspicion will be raised on pac's case forever till he accepts random blood test if he's not guilty!

[KananKrus]

If the Mayweathers wanted this fight, as they are letting the public to believe, then they should have just raised the steroids issue after the fight and not before the fight.

Vargas looked juiced up, but De La Hoya still beat the John Crap out of him anyways.

Win or lose, money in the bank. As "money" ya would think would have it... eh?

Win could have been tooo much heaven, and lose, gives them an easy out... the 'roid card. But nooooo! Nothin' should threaten the "0".

[Gandalf]

Pacquiao was willing to give blood tests as late as 24 days before the fight and additionally if still needed, right after the fight. This surely ensures a satisfaction for both camps. One camp for concern on steroids use, and the other for a continuity for a "ritual" but proven winning fight preparations.

This was the concession that the Pac group were willing to accomodate. However, the Mayweathers said no, as they wanted random blood tests to take place right up until seconds before the fight, this was unfortunately, disagreeable to Manny and rightfully so.

Pacquiao, as far as he is concerned, has nothing to hide. He plainly is not comfortable being randomly tested for the disruption it creates on his fight preparations. Likewise, it also has a history as a recipe for a bad result, (Morales vs Pac I) where he was tested days before the fight and he immediately felt enormously weakened as a result and to never achieve peak form atop the ring.

What else can be said....

Smokescreen works at Saddo!

No, no, no.

Pac's proposal to change the cut off date from 30 days to 24 days is a nothing proposal. It is far from the random testing which has been asked all along.

The arguments that you are offering in defence of Manny are ludicrous. The tests would have little impact on his training. There were a bunch of excuses for the Morales loss and bloodtesting was one of them. It couldn't be down to the fact that on the night Morales was simply better than him, could it now? I see there were no excuses after getting the nod over Marquez second time out. It's funny how there are no excuses when the cards go in your favour.

Manny, the supposed fans fighter, has gone and chickened out when it mattered the most. And you have to wonder, why? Were the questions being asked simply too much for him to handle? Or too close to the bone? Manny now has serious question marks next to his name and has made a lot of people very angry.

It's a disgrace. The responses from his team have been haphazard at best or else outright dishonest. We all knew Manny was tough to negotiate with, but this is absurd. The biggest fight of the decade off because of a refusal to submit to random testing.