End of Day 2 of Mediation - No Agreement - They say fight is off

[KananKrus]

Pacquiao was willing to give blood tests as late as 24 days before the fight and additionally if still needed, right after the fight. This surely ensures a satisfaction for both camps. One camp for concern on steroids use, and the other for a continuity for a "ritual" but proven winning fight preparations.

This was the concession that the Pac group were willing to accomodate. However, the Mayweathers said no, as they wanted random blood tests to take place right up until seconds before the fight, this was unfortunately, disagreeable to Manny and rightfully so.

Pacquiao, as far as he is concerned, has nothing to hide. He plainly is not comfortable being randomly tested for the disruption it creates on his fight preparations. Likewise, it also has a history as a recipe for a bad result, (Morales vs Pac I) where he was tested days before the fight and he immediately felt enormously weakened as a result and to never achieve peak form atop the ring.

What else can be said....

Smokescreen works at Saddo!

[Nameless]

Pacquiao was willing to give blood tests as late as 24 days before the fight and additionally if still needed, right after the fight. This surely ensures a satisfaction for both camps. One camp for concern on steroids use, and the other for a continuity for a "ritual" but proven winning fight preparations.

This was the concession that the Pac group were willing to accomodate. However, the Mayweathers said no, as they wanted random blood tests to take place right up until seconds before the fight, this was unfortunately, disagreeable to Manny and rightfully so.

Pacquiao, as far as he is concerned, has nothing to hide. He plainly is not comfortable being randomly tested for the disruption it creates on his fight preparations. Likewise, it also has a history as a recipe for a bad result, (Morales vs Pac I) where he was tested days before the fight and he immediately felt enormously weakened as a result and to never achieve peak form atop the ring.

What else can be said....

Smokescreen works at Saddo!

It's bullshit, you can't be weakened by that!! When I was testing medicine, I could have 20 blood draw in 2 days, small amount. I could do whatever I wanted and even went doing sport after the week-end. IT is impossible and it is total crap that it "weakens" Pacman, everybody knows that. Now the fight is off and suspicion will be raised on pac's case forever till he accepts random blood test if he's not guilty!

[KananKrus]

If the Mayweathers wanted this fight, as they are letting the public to believe, then they should have just raised the steroids issue after the fight and not before the fight.

Vargas looked juiced up, but De La Hoya still beat the John Crap out of him anyways.

Win or lose, money in the bank. As "money" ya would think would have it... eh?

Win could have been tooo much heaven, and lose, gives them an easy out... the 'roid card. But nooooo! Nothin' should threaten the "0".

[KananKrus]

You did not fight Erik Morales for 12 gruelling rounds either, Buddy!

[Nameless]

You did not fight Erik Morales for 12 gruelling rounds either, Buddy!

What does it have to do with the fact that his behaviors are highly suspect? nothing. PAc struggled against Morrales because El Terrible was a much better technician than him and probably as fast. Wouldn't it have been from the weight drain, PAcman would have lost the second time against him too. Morrales was just very good and Pac had difficulties against him, period. Thinking that a blooddraw can weaken you to this point is fake excuses. I don't need to fight nobody to understand how I would want to make sure that my opponent is playing by the rules. You can say whatever you want as a blind sight fan but objectively, Pacman has no reasons whatsoever to refuse random blood test for this fight, especially as Mayweather would have the same.

[josef4334]

You did not fight Erik Morales for 12 gruelling rounds either, Buddy!

What does it have to do with the fact that his behaviors are highly suspect? nothing. PAc struggled against Morrales because El Terrible was a much better technician than him and probably as fast. Wouldn't it have been from the weight drain, PAcman would have lost the second time against him too. Morrales was just very good and Pac had difficulties against him, period. Thinking that a blooddraw can weaken you to this point is fake excuses. I don't need to fight nobody to understand how I would want to make sure that my opponent is playing by the rules. You can say whatever you want as a blind sight fan but objectively, Pacman has no reasons whatsoever to refuse random blood test for this fight, especially as Mayweather would have the same.

yeah man.. pac didnt think fast there.. he should have asked the commision to draw blood from mayweathers thigh so he wont be able to run all night. if pac cant punch 100% then mayweather wont be able to keep running.

[Nameless]

You did not fight Erik Morales for 12 gruelling rounds either, Buddy!

What does it have to do with the fact that his behaviors are highly suspect? nothing. PAc struggled against Morrales because El Terrible was a much better technician than him and probably as fast. Wouldn't it have been from the weight drain, PAcman would have lost the second time against him too. Morrales was just very good and Pac had difficulties against him, period. Thinking that a blooddraw can weaken you to this point is fake excuses. I don't need to fight nobody to understand how I would want to make sure that my opponent is playing by the rules. You can say whatever you want as a blind sight fan but objectively, Pacman has no reasons whatsoever to refuse random blood test for this fight, especially as Mayweather would have the same.

yeah man.. pac didnt think fast there.. he should have asked the commision to draw blood from mayweathers thigh so he wont be able to run all night. if pac cant punch 100% then mayweather wont be able to keep running.

Mayweather is subjected to the same blood tests, for your information, and they can pull the blood from any veins, it has never been stipulated nowhere that it has to be taken from Manny's left arm exactly from the sensitive and hurtful location, for your very own information.

[DatsiK]

Fukk Manny Pacquiao! The dude has just ruined any chances of one of the biggest fights we've seen in ages. If this fight truly doesn't come off as a result of him refusing to do the blood tests, then I gotta say my respect for him is gone.

[JT Rock]

I think its interesting how some Puss fans around here past and present have flashed sigs, pictures and avatars like KananKraus does of Pussiauo in Bruce Lee movie back drops trying to make an obvious comparison to their physiques..

Funny thing is Bruce was insanely obsessed with his body, he ran lifted weights, used electrical stimulation on his muscles, incorporated agility drills and tokk a myriad of supplements as well as ANABOLIC STEROIDS!!!!!!!

[Fenster]

Some people are seriously arguing that Pac could be weakened by a blood test? Please someone tell me it's a wind up

[killersheep]

Some people are seriously arguing that Pac could be weakened by a blood test? Please someone tell me it's a wind up

Put yourself in Pacquiao's shoes............no wait don't do that.

[Gandalf]

Pacquiao was willing to give blood tests as late as 24 days before the fight and additionally if still needed, right after the fight. This surely ensures a satisfaction for both camps. One camp for concern on steroids use, and the other for a continuity for a "ritual" but proven winning fight preparations.

This was the concession that the Pac group were willing to accomodate. However, the Mayweathers said no, as they wanted random blood tests to take place right up until seconds before the fight, this was unfortunately, disagreeable to Manny and rightfully so.

Pacquiao, as far as he is concerned, has nothing to hide. He plainly is not comfortable being randomly tested for the disruption it creates on his fight preparations. Likewise, it also has a history as a recipe for a bad result, (Morales vs Pac I) where he was tested days before the fight and he immediately felt enormously weakened as a result and to never achieve peak form atop the ring.

What else can be said....

Smokescreen works at Saddo!

No, no, no.

Pac's proposal to change the cut off date from 30 days to 24 days is a nothing proposal. It is far from the random testing which has been asked all along.

The arguments that you are offering in defence of Manny are ludicrous. The tests would have little impact on his training. There were a bunch of excuses for the Morales loss and bloodtesting was one of them. It couldn't be down to the fact that on the night Morales was simply better than him, could it now? I see there were no excuses after getting the nod over Marquez second time out. It's funny how there are no excuses when the cards go in your favour.

Manny, the supposed fans fighter, has gone and chickened out when it mattered the most. And you have to wonder, why? Were the questions being asked simply too much for him to handle? Or too close to the bone? Manny now has serious question marks next to his name and has made a lot of people very angry.

It's a disgrace. The responses from his team have been haphazard at best or else outright dishonest. We all knew Manny was tough to negotiate with, but this is absurd. The biggest fight of the decade off because of a refusal to submit to random testing.

[The Rela]

It's not good this. Not good at all.

Before all this shinnanigans, i thought Pac Man was an absolute legend and Mayweather was a great fighter but a bit shy when it came to fighting someone his own size.

Now I think Pac Man may have something to hide and Mayweather is a joke.

Mayweather said it would be an easy fight! So easy that he did everything possible to ensure that it was called off.

Carry on fighting over-rated smaller men Mayweather or well passed their best fighters. You will always have pathetic people kissing your overated yellow arse.

[Mark TKO]

I can't believe this.

Not taking sides - 6 of one half a dozen of the other . Both have gone down in my estimation.

And more importantly they have dealt a killer blow to the sport that has made them mega starts and mega rich. And don't seem to give two shits about us the fans.

[josef4334]

Pacquiao was willing to give blood tests as late as 24 days before the fight and additionally if still needed, right after the fight. This surely ensures a satisfaction for both camps. One camp for concern on steroids use, and the other for a continuity for a "ritual" but proven winning fight preparations.

This was the concession that the Pac group were willing to accomodate. However, the Mayweathers said no, as they wanted random blood tests to take place right up until seconds before the fight, this was unfortunately, disagreeable to Manny and rightfully so.

Pacquiao, as far as he is concerned, has nothing to hide. He plainly is not comfortable being randomly tested for the disruption it creates on his fight preparations. Likewise, it also has a history as a recipe for a bad result, (Morales vs Pac I) where he was tested days before the fight and he immediately felt enormously weakened as a result and to never achieve peak form atop the ring.

What else can be said....

Smokescreen works at Saddo!

No, no, no.

Pac's proposal to change the cut off date from 30 days to 24 days is a nothing proposal. It is far from the random testing which has been asked all along.

The arguments that you are offering in defence of Manny are ludicrous. The tests would have little impact on his training. There were a bunch of excuses for the Morales loss and bloodtesting was one of them. It couldn't be down to the fact that on the night Morales was simply better than him, could it now? I see there were no excuses after getting the nod over Marquez second time out. It's funny how there are no excuses when the cards go in your favour.

Manny, the supposed fans fighter, has gone and chickened out when it mattered the most. And you have to wonder, why? Were the questions being asked simply too much for him to handle? Or too close to the bone? Manny now has serious question marks next to his name and has made a lot of people very angry.

It's a disgrace. The responses from his team have been haphazard at best or else outright dishonest. We all knew Manny was tough to negotiate with, but this is absurd. The biggest fight of the decade off because of a refusal to submit to random testing.

i see where you're coming from. and i do agree about manny and the question marks next to his name because of certain allegations from a convicted drug dealer. but lets put ourselves in mannys shoes here for a moment. if you had a history of being outsmarted in a fight negotiation. for example, he was outhussled in the negotiations during the first morales fight by his own promoter. he was forced to use winning gloves instead of reyes, his blood was drawn two days before the fight and he believed that weakened him. the same pattern of negotiating floyd used. wanting to fight at 154, 10 oz gloves and random blood testing. well only the random blood testing worked against pacquiao.