Question: Pacquiao conceded to random tests up until 24 days b4 the fight...

[killersheep]

ive been asking that same question man. but somehow when i bring up the question about the validity of the blood draw right after the fight, all the steroid experts go into hiding.

Let's say they did follow this, then let's say Mayweather wins and tests positive AFTER the fight. Is it fair that Mayweather gets his 40 million dollar payday BY MEANS OF being juiced up for the fight? Sure his reputation would be damaged, but he won't suffer because of it, he will in fact be rewarded.

[josef4334]

ive been asking that same question man. but somehow when i bring up the question about the validity of the blood draw right after the fight, all the steroid experts go into hiding.

Let's say they did follow this, then let's say Mayweather wins and tests positive AFTER the fight. Is it fair that Mayweather gets his 40 million dollar payday BY MEANS OF being juiced up for the fight? Sure his reputation would be damaged, but he won't suffer because of it, he will in fact be rewarded.

i see your point. but for the sake of making the fight. sure pacs offer of 24 days is still way too weak. instead of negotiating, mayweather instantly said no according to sources. he could have said, "no, thats too far off still, how about cut off date of 5 days before the fight?" then they meet somewhere in between. but he always wanted the random testing. and besides, do you think mayweather cares about his reputation. he came in overweight against a much smaller fighter in marquez, then the contract was modified on the fly and he paid a petty 600K fine so he could have the advantage. thats another thread tho so ill stop there.

[Rantcatrat]

so, just to be clear: Manny never agreed to random testing at all? He just agreed to a test 24 days before the fight, once after the fight, and once during the kick-off week?

[Kirkland Laing]

so, just to be clear: Manny never agreed to random testing at all? He just agreed to a test 24 days before the fight, once after the fight, and once during the kick-off week?

Yes. He agreed to random urine testing, which doesn't detect a bunch of stuff, but not to random blood testing.

[skel1983]

so, just to be clear: Manny never agreed to random testing at all? He just agreed to a test 24 days before the fight, once after the fight, and once during the kick-off week?

Yes. He agreed to random urine testing, which doesn't detect a bunch of stuff, but not to random blood testing.

HGH cannot be detected in blood but can be in urine that's to my knowledge and the research I have done, HGH is undetectable in blood testing.

[hitmanhatton]

so, just to be clear: Manny never agreed to random testing at all? He just agreed to a test 24 days before the fight, once after the fight, and once during the kick-off week?

Yes. He agreed to random urine testing, which doesn't detect a bunch of stuff, but not to random blood testing.

HGH cannot be detected in blood but can be in urine that's to my knowledge and the research I have done, HGH is undetectable in blood testing.

supposedly only after up to 48 hours after taking, however nothing to say HGH is what they need to be looking for so random blood and urine testing is neccesary

[Kirkland Laing]

so, just to be clear: Manny never agreed to random testing at all? He just agreed to a test 24 days before the fight, once after the fight, and once during the kick-off week?

Yes. He agreed to random urine testing, which doesn't detect a bunch of stuff, but not to random blood testing.

HGH cannot be detected in blood but can be in urine that's to my knowledge and the research I have done, HGH is undetectable in blood testing.

You've got it backwards. Can't be detected in urine, can be in blood, but only for 48 hours after taking it.

EXCLUSIVE: WADA “HGH ONLY DETECTED IN BLOOD”

[DaxxKahn]

so, just to be clear: Manny never agreed to random testing at all? He just agreed to a test 24 days before the fight, once after the fight, and once during the kick-off week?

Yes. He agreed to random urine testing, which doesn't detect a bunch of stuff, but not to random blood testing.

While I find the whole thing to be out nof control, it has gone from a test to random bllod test that is a bit unreasonable, as it is unreasonable for Pacquiaos camp to refuse even one test but...

To have the guy say yeah blood test me at your request as often as you want is not reasonable.....

[Kirkland Laing]

so, just to be clear: Manny never agreed to random testing at all? He just agreed to a test 24 days before the fight, once after the fight, and once during the kick-off week?

Yes. He agreed to random urine testing, which doesn't detect a bunch of stuff, but not to random blood testing.

While I find the whole thing to be out nof control, it has gone from a test to random bllod test that is a bit unreasonable, as it is unreasonable for Pacquiaos camp to refuse even one test but...

To have the guy say yeah blood test me at your request as often as you want is not reasonable.....

Floyd wanted random testing from when negotiations started in mid-November. And it's not like Manny is going to have to get tested as often as Floyd wants him to and it's not like they'd be using a rusty razor to take two pints at a time. The testing is done by people used to fitting in with athletes' schedules and is completely unobtrusive, it's a couple of minutes when they turn up at the gym. And a complete set of random tests over the period that they'd need to test for would require a total of 9 ml of blood, or less than one-third of one US fluid ounce. And both fighters would be subject to exactly the same number of tests at the same random times so it's not like it gives Floyd any advantage or Manny any disadvantage.