End of Day 2 of Mediation - No Agreement - They say fight is off

[Kirkland Laing]

This is about the fourth time Arum has said the fight is off. GBP are saying there's still a negotiation window, or they're negotiating still, I forget. I haven't read the thread yet but I will later. Not looking promising though.

EDIT: it isn't off till one of them signs a contract for another fight. The only promotion the fight needs in 24/7, there's no problem with this ticking over another week or so before any announcement.

[Conrad]

This may already have been pointed out but it only occured to me today.

If Pac really has been juicing all this time why not just take the random tests but not do the PEDs? Sure he wont have the power or whatever but his reputation remains intact and he's $40m better off. Admittidly PBF becomes an ATG at Pac's expense but none of this bullshit ever happened...

Surelly if Pac has been cheating he'd realise this and just takes the damn tests. unless of course he's been clean all along and genuinely does believe the tests weaken him?

[hitmanhatton]

This may already have been pointed out but it only occured to me today.

If Pac really has been juicing all this time why not just take the random tests but not do the PEDs? Sure he wont have the power or whatever but his reputation remains intact and he's $40m better off. Admittidly PBF becomes an ATG at Pac's expense but none of this bullshit ever happened...

Surelly if Pac has been cheating he'd realise this and just takes the damn tests. unless of course he's been clean all along and genuinely does believe the tests weaken him?

i guess a suddent drop in power, speed or whatever would be as good a positive test in a lot of peoples eyes and would damage his reputation anyway

[brucelee]

I have already sensed from the day this fight was negotiated that there will be problems in both sides.

I honestly believe that Mayweather is afraid of Pac ( just as he was afraid of Cotto and Margarito) so this fight may not happen.


I never thought that a simple drug test would be an issue for this fight to be called off.

Pac's camp should have offered a closer day for the random testing like 7 days before the fight. They could have rightfully blamed Mayweather for putting this fight off. Seven days would not be enough for pac to cheat if he is really juicing. Seven days would also give Pac enough time to recover from the blood letting. It's either Pac is really juicing or he's too proud (and too stupid) not to accept Gayweather's demand. Damn your pride Pac!

Anyway, we won't really know who's to blame as Mayweather immediately shut off any door for negotiation when he didn't budge with his demand to do the random testing ( even minutes before the fight!!!).

If Mayweather was really interested, he could have offered a closer day for random test. But no, Golden Boy even could not convinced him to make a concession.

Whew. This fight is making me insane.

[Gandalf]

I have already sensed from the day this fight was negotiated that there will be problems in both sides.

I honestly believe that Mayweather is afraid of Pac ( just as he was afraid of Cotto and Margarito) so this fight may not happen.


I never thought that a simple drug test would be an issue for this fight to be called off.

Pac's camp should have offered a closer day for the random testing like 7 days before the fight. They could have rightfully blamed Mayweather for putting this fight off. Seven days would not be enough for pac to cheat if he is really juicing. Seven days would also give Pac enough time to recover from the blood letting. It's either Pac is really juicing or he's too proud (and too stupid) not to accept Gayweather's demand. Damn your pride Pac!

Anyway, we won't really know who's to blame as Mayweather immediately shut off any door for negotiation when he didn't budge with his demand to do the random testing ( even minutes before the fight!!!).

If Mayweather was really interested, he could have offered a closer day for random test. But no, Golden Boy even could not convinced him to make a concession.

Whew. This fight is making me insane.

Mayweather offered a window of 14 days for the blood testing. He wasn't even asking for the 7 that you think is reasonable. He was asking for 14 days, which is even more breathing space for Manny. And Manny has seemingly turned that down.

It is insane and highly suspicious. And you have to keep returning to that question. Why is Manny having so many issues with a random blood test? The man is acting up something rotten and sure isn't acting very innocent.

Manny is the one who has turned his nose up at the fight. Not Mayweather. No excuses from the Pacfans please. Mayweather offered even more than he should have, and Manny shrugged his shoulders.

We have no fight because Manny Pac is either juicing and it's all hit too close to home or else he is scared. Franky, it's difficult to look at it in any other way. There is no reason to refuse a 14 day window if it's all about a reluctance to give blood and the worry that it might affect his performance.

[brucelee]

I have already sensed from the day this fight was negotiated that there will be problems in both sides.

I honestly believe that Mayweather is afraid of Pac ( just as he was afraid of Cotto and Margarito) so this fight may not happen.


I never thought that a simple drug test would be an issue for this fight to be called off.

Pac's camp should have offered a closer day for the random testing like 7 days before the fight. They could have rightfully blamed Mayweather for putting this fight off. Seven days would not be enough for pac to cheat if he is really juicing. Seven days would also give Pac enough time to recover from the blood letting. It's either Pac is really juicing or he's too proud (and too stupid) not to accept Gayweather's demand. Damn your pride Pac!

Anyway, we won't really know who's to blame as Mayweather immediately shut off any door for negotiation when he didn't budge with his demand to do the random testing ( even minutes before the fight!!!).

If Mayweather was really interested, he could have offered a closer day for random test. But no, Golden Boy even could not convinced him to make a concession.

Whew. This fight is making me insane.

Mayweather offered a window of 14 days for the blood testing. He wasn't even asking for the 7 that you think is reasonable. He was asking for 14 days, which is even more breathing space for Manny. And Manny has seemingly turned that down.

It is insane and highly suspicious. And you have to keep returning to that question. Why is Manny having so many issues with a random blood test? The man is acting up something rotten and sure isn't acting very innocent.

Manny is the one who has turned his nose up at the fight. Not Mayweather. No excuses from the Pacfans please. Mayweather offered even more than he should have, and Manny shrugged his shoulders.

We have no fight because Manny Pac is either juicing and it's all hit too close to home or else he is scared. Franky, it's difficult to look at it in any other way. There is no reason to refuse a 14 day window if it's all about a reluctance to give blood and the worry that it might affect his performance.

I didn't know Gayweather asked for 14 days. Could you provide the link please?

[fan johnny]

You guys all really beleive that cover story crap! I want 24 days! no, I want 14 days. Give me a fukn break! Two days of mediation under a binding gag order and the first thing out of the meeting they go to the media and say we can't agree on testing shit. Riiight!

TWO FUKN DAYS! A year from now we could look back at this thread......

[Gandalf]

I have already sensed from the day this fight was negotiated that there will be problems in both sides.

I honestly believe that Mayweather is afraid of Pac ( just as he was afraid of Cotto and Margarito) so this fight may not happen.


I never thought that a simple drug test would be an issue for this fight to be called off.

Pac's camp should have offered a closer day for the random testing like 7 days before the fight. They could have rightfully blamed Mayweather for putting this fight off. Seven days would not be enough for pac to cheat if he is really juicing. Seven days would also give Pac enough time to recover from the blood letting. It's either Pac is really juicing or he's too proud (and too stupid) not to accept Gayweather's demand. Damn your pride Pac!

Anyway, we won't really know who's to blame as Mayweather immediately shut off any door for negotiation when he didn't budge with his demand to do the random testing ( even minutes before the fight!!!).

If Mayweather was really interested, he could have offered a closer day for random test. But no, Golden Boy even could not convinced him to make a concession.

Whew. This fight is making me insane.

Mayweather offered a window of 14 days for the blood testing. He wasn't even asking for the 7 that you think is reasonable. He was asking for 14 days, which is even more breathing space for Manny. And Manny has seemingly turned that down.

It is insane and highly suspicious. And you have to keep returning to that question. Why is Manny having so many issues with a random blood test? The man is acting up something rotten and sure isn't acting very innocent.

Manny is the one who has turned his nose up at the fight. Not Mayweather. No excuses from the Pacfans please. Mayweather offered even more than he should have, and Manny shrugged his shoulders.

We have no fight because Manny Pac is either juicing and it's all hit too close to home or else he is scared. Franky, it's difficult to look at it in any other way. There is no reason to refuse a 14 day window if it's all about a reluctance to give blood and the worry that it might affect his performance.

I didn't know Gayweather asked for 14 days. Could you provide the link please?

This is a link Tysonbruno had in another thread.

Mayweather blames bout collapse on Pacquiao - Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

[KKisser]

This is about the fourth time Arum has said the fight is off. GBP are saying there's still a negotiation window, or they're negotiating still, I forget. I haven't read the thread yet but I will later. Not looking promising though.

EDIT: it isn't off till one of them signs a contract for another fight. The only promotion the fight needs in 24/7, there's no problem with this ticking over another week or so before any announcement.

i totally agree. how many times have we heard this fight not coming off so far?