A neutrals perspective on the Manny debate ..........

[KKisser]

Um, I'm gonna need you to know something about PEDs before we continue this conversation.

so you're some kind of PEDS expert i suppose. he said the blood draw two days before the fight weakened him. do you want him to give the same excuse if he loses to mayweather?

If you think Manny losing to Erik Morales had anything to do with blood being drawn you are on crack. Worse yet, why didn't Pac say that after losing? Fighters love making excuses for why they lost. Why wasn't this said by anyone after that fight?

I am no expert, but I'm pretty sure taking PEDs before a fight makes you stronger.

he did say it in an interview in 2005 after the morales fight. if you search for it in youtube you'd easily find it.

ok, here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_97MccjZwV4

[Jimmy G-Force]

Floyd Mayweather Snr is now stating the dude on the far right is on some sort of PED's. Honestly, I want to see proof.

[Jimmy G-Force]

On a more serious note, I like, and completely agree with this article.....

Filipino Pride: The Main Reason Pacquiao Refuses Random Testing | Bleacher Report

[miron_lang]

On a more serious note, I like, and completely agree with this article.....

Filipino Pride: The Main Reason Pacquiao Refuses Random Testing | Bleacher Report

[Jimmy G-Force]

Floyd Mayweather is now stating that he wont fight Manny because he believes that Mannys dress sense is the result of the use of mind-bending drugs.

To be honest, after checking this photo, I dont even think testing is required, it's pretty conclusive in my book .........

[TheBranMan]

A bad sense of fashion is one thing. Bad sportsmanship is another.

Call it pride. Call it cheating. Call it a dire fear of needles. Call it whatever you like. The statement: "Pacquiao has refused the fight because Floyd requested a more conclusive type of testing" is still true. I just hope that they can come to an agreement (where the fans know we're getting a fair fight).... by uhh... next fall

[Jimmy G-Force]

A bad sense of fashion is one thing. Bad sportsmanship is another.

Call it pride. Call it cheating. Call it a dire fear of needles. Call it whatever you like. The statement: "Pacquiao has refused the fight because Floyd requested a more conclusive type of testing" is still true. I just hope that they can come to an agreement (where the fans know we're getting a fair fight).... by uhh... next fall

It's also true that never in the sport of boxing has any fighter ever demanded what Floyd is demanding. Floyd is an all-time great, but that doesnt mean, as much as he thinks he is, that he's bigger than the sport. Floyd believes he is the greatest of all time. If thats the case, then go out and beat a former 108lb fighter and show the world that you can beat Manny even if he believes he has had some juice. Take Oscar v Vargas. Nando was the naturally bigger fighter, also world class, and full or roids, and Oscar kicked his ass.

It's all about skill at the end of the day. And Floyd is the bigger fighter naturally anyway with more skill than any fighter on the planet. Floyd just needs to grow some balls. PED's dont make you Superman, or in Manny's case WakaPacman.

If I was Manny, I would have told Floyd in no uncertain terms, to go and fuck himself. If I was also Manny, I'd be rubbing shoulders with Mr Versace and Mr Armani, because the Christmas jumper he got off his grandma is shocking at best.

[:::PSL:::]

Floyd Mayweather Snr is now stating the dude on the far right is on some sort of PED's. Honestly, I want to see proof.

Floyd Sr is still on crack. If he really believes that, then why Manny only grew 5 pounds (fight night) from 2006 to 2009?