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    Although #3 doesn't seem "humane" I find it to be the easiest if you have a dog that doesn't respond to the startle reflex when they are outside. The vibrate/shock collar tells the dog "There will be a punishment" (vibrate) and then "Here's the punishment" (shock)...if you factor your voice in there by giving a warning ahead of the vibrate you can eventually take that collar off altogether in a step by step process. Your command will need to be short and if need be avoid using the dog's name...just throw out a "HEY! QUIET!" or heck, even a clap would do if they listen to it...use whatever command that works inside the house and that will suit them.

    #1 Make the chain...make it so your dogs understand and link together what happens Bark = your command (1 second pause), vibrate(1 second pause), then shock.

    #2 Phase out the shock. Once the chain is made in the dog's brain eventually you will only have to make the command because the dog knows what is coming next. So what you do is you make the command and once the dog complies frequently before the shock occurs you don't have to do that anymore and the vibrate becomes enough to shake the dog out of it's behavior.

    It's kind of like a parent doing the age old "I'm going to give you to the count of three" thing....they only ever need to reach 3 once.


    Here are some other factors to help you out Andre:
    #1 Believe it or not surrounding environment is ALWAYS a prime factor in Behavioral Psychology because in some settings you are able to focus and concentrate better an in other settings you find it hard to do so. If they are inside there may be less going on, your voice may carry better, you may have established yourself as "pack leader" inside the house....meanwhile outside there are sights, smells, sounds and you may get drowned out all that commotion.

    #2 Also you must factor in their mental/physical/emotional state when they are outside, have they just been in the house all day or have they just been playing...odds are if they have been sufficiently worn out they won't bark at everything. This reason is the PRIME reason domestic dogs are easy to train because usually above all else they would like either food or affection and be sure to reward them for good behavior just as you would punish them for acting bad.

    So whatever you choose to use make sure you try and give yourself and your pet the advantage of Environment and Physical State and you will be more successful.

    Let me know how it works for you
    Last edited by El Kabong; 01-10-2010 at 09:37 PM.

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    Thanks Im definately the pack leader.One word from me and they usually shut it,one word from any one else in the house and they usually just carry on regardless,so I guess its me.

    They have a doggie door so they can move out of one end of the house which is the tiled area and computer room to outside anywhere they like.

    We live in a tourist holiday area so we dont have neighbors for 3/4 of the year so these fukkers go off when noise comes from next door.

    But that seems to carry over onto our visitors and people going past or even cars that pull up out front now.They get up the lady that lives behind us too cause they know they get an emotion feel from her when they do.

    ID squirt them with a super soaker everytime they did it if it was up to me,



    But then I get.... " thats cruuuuel !"


    I doubt the collars would be allowed by this lot either! You see Im the pack leader with the dogs, but these 3 women run me like a fukkin greyhound .



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