does numbing your hands gives advantage in actual boxing fight?

[zbolt]

my thoughts are that this is a very weak attempt to make a certain fighter seem like a cheater, when a certain poster's favorite fighter is the one under the microscope for cheating by using an illegal substance

your thoughts not the purpose of this thread. i think this is a legitimate boxing question that worthy of a forum discussion

[El Kabong]

Didn't Mayweather use to use Winning Gloves instead of Cleto Reyes? If he didn't get those injections I could see him going back to those "pillows" he used to wear and just plain old outboxing Pacquiao

[Kel]

Of course it's an advantage, anything that allows you to take more pain in a combat sport is wrong IMO.

[generalbulldog]

Of course it's an advantage, anything that allows you to take more pain in a combat sport is wrong IMO.

Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.

BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.

BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.

What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.

-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation


This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

[El Kabong]

...I need to get some of that stuff man, my hands are aching a bit after my heavybag workout.


Just when boxing had so much momentum and now I feel as if we're going to fall off big time because the 2 guys at the top of the P4P rankings are both cheating or suspected of cheating......damn shame and different than the way Ali, Holyfield, Tyson, et al "cheated" (just so I clarify, they didn't really "cheat" per say but they all bent the rules pretty good)

[miron_lang]

Of course it's an advantage, anything that allows you to take more pain in a combat sport is wrong IMO.

Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.

BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.

BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.

What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.

-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation


This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

i'm confused


You realize that Floyd is the one using xylocaine and not Pacquiao right? for his hands?

I believe the topic is about Mayweather or even DLH who used it before. What does Pac has to do with Floyd or even Oscar using drugs for their hands?

[DaxxKahn]

Of course it's an advantage, anything that allows you to take more pain in a combat sport is wrong IMO.

Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.

BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.

BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.

What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.

-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation


This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

i'm confused


You realize that Floyd is the one using xylocaine and not Pacquiao right? for his hands?

I believe the topic is about Mayweather or even DLH who used it before. What does Pac has to do with Floyd or even Oscar using drugs for their hands?

Believe it or not it is more harmful then good in the long run...Aside from the whole using to fight issue...From what I understand the joints in your hand become dependent on the stuff...Often becoming sore all the time because of joint swelling...

[miron_lang]

Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.

BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.

BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.

What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.

-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation


This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

i'm confused


You realize that Floyd is the one using xylocaine and not Pacquiao right? for his hands?

I believe the topic is about Mayweather or even DLH who used it before. What does Pac has to do with Floyd or even Oscar using drugs for their hands?

Believe it or not it is more harmful then good in the long run...Aside from the whole using to fight issue...From what I understand the joints in your hand become dependent on the stuff...Often becoming sore all the time because of joint swelling...

that might be true. but people have different ideas about this. and what does Pacquiao have to do with this? that's what im asking bulldog

[AdamGB]

Yep. As Bigragu explained boxing is pain. And anything that masks that pain is an advantage.

BTW, most states in the US have ban this drug in boxing matches, even Nevada has followed suit. I believe all boxers should be natural. No pain injections, no PEDs, nothing.

BUt the USADA and WADA says it's not illegal to use, go figure. The plot sure thickens.

What the xylocaine/lidocaine drugs do.

-Increase pain threshold
-Sensation of euphoria
-Feelings of invincibility
-Failure to recognize injury
-psychological stimulation


This is a big discussion now on other boxing boards. And not everyone that is saying that this shit is an unfair advantage is a Pacman dikrider. Bigragu isn't one and neither am I. In fact I have been pretty hard on Pacman for refusing random blood test. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

i'm confused


You realize that Floyd is the one using xylocaine and not Pacquiao right? for his hands?

I believe the topic is about Mayweather or even DLH who used it before. What does Pac has to do with Floyd or even Oscar using drugs for their hands?

Believe it or not it is more harmful then good in the long run...Aside from the whole using to fight issue...From what I understand the joints in your hand become dependent on the stuff...Often becoming sore all the time because of joint swelling...

That's what I'm saying, don't get me wrong - it is cheating... but if you have ruined hands it's just allowing you to use your hands in the way that a normal person without damaged hands would.

PEDs/Plaster wraps take you ABOVE the level of a normal person... so whilst this is bad, PEDs and loaded wraps are far worse in my opinion.