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    Default Re: So what if its Mayweather vs Cintron???

    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    How is this as good a fight as Pac/Clottey? I get the Manny anger but come on, anybody think Cintron beats Clottey? Anyone? I get that styles make fights but when has Cintron looked as good as Clottey ever? Clottey's a bit of a dumb shit but he's a better fighter than Cintron.

    I think Cintron is better than Clottey. You have to admit he is absolutely much more dangerous. Overall, these two are on the same level though. Clottey just doesn't have the aggression. His peekaboo defense is too much of his makeup. And the Cotto fight co-signed what I thought the Margarito fight showed and that is Clottey has no heart when the going gets tough. Cintron beat Angulo. Cintron was very impressive in that fight and looked improved. Plus, you have to admit Cintron has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder.
    No, I don't have to admit to any of that.

    I assume by more dangerous you mean he has more power, meh its overrated but fine he does have more power. So he's got a punchers chance against guys like Floyd and Pac, when you get down to it he's got no chance. Clottey's a tough out for anybody, I could see Clottey beating Mosley and it wouldn't shock me if he beat Pacquiao. It WOULD shock me if Cintron beat any elite fighter. So I totally disagree with the idea that he's more dangerous, he might be more of a danger to land an out of nowhere punch and get a KO but Clottey is far more dangerous in that he's far more likely to just beat you.

    Clottey just beat Cotto IMO (although I had it for Cotto first time I saw it) and he beat him even though he tried as hard as he could to give it away. He has no mental toughness or ambition. But he's a much better fighter than Cintron. Even his biggest liability, mental toughness, isn't a strength of Cintron's.

    And no I don't have to admit he has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder. Really? When has he shown this ability? Like, ever? I don't know man, I just don't see it.

    He beat Angulo, good for him, I didn't pick him to win, but seriously Angulo's a fairly limited guy. People are starting to get hyped up about him again and they'll be disappointed by him again when he gets out boxed sometime in the relatively near future.
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    Default Re: So what if its Mayweather vs Cintron???

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by blegit View Post
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    How is this as good a fight as Pac/Clottey? I get the Manny anger but come on, anybody think Cintron beats Clottey? Anyone? I get that styles make fights but when has Cintron looked as good as Clottey ever? Clottey's a bit of a dumb shit but he's a better fighter than Cintron.

    I think Cintron is better than Clottey. You have to admit he is absolutely much more dangerous. Overall, these two are on the same level though. Clottey just doesn't have the aggression. His peekaboo defense is too much of his makeup. And the Cotto fight co-signed what I thought the Margarito fight showed and that is Clottey has no heart when the going gets tough. Cintron beat Angulo. Cintron was very impressive in that fight and looked improved. Plus, you have to admit Cintron has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder.
    No, I don't have to admit to any of that.

    I assume by more dangerous you mean he has more power, meh its overrated but fine he does have more power. So he's got a punchers chance against guys like Floyd and Pac, when you get down to it he's got no chance. Clottey's a tough out for anybody, I could see Clottey beating Mosley and it wouldn't shock me if he beat Pacquiao. It WOULD shock me if Cintron beat any elite fighter. So I totally disagree with the idea that he's more dangerous, he might be more of a danger to land an out of nowhere punch and get a KO but Clottey is far more dangerous in that he's far more likely to just beat you.

    Clottey just beat Cotto IMO (although I had it for Cotto first time I saw it) and he beat him even though he tried as hard as he could to give it away. He has no mental toughness or ambition. But he's a much better fighter than Cintron. Even his biggest liability, mental toughness, isn't a strength of Cintron's.

    And no I don't have to admit he has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder. Really? When has he shown this ability? Like, ever? I don't know man, I just don't see it.

    He beat Angulo, good for him, I didn't pick him to win, but seriously Angulo's a fairly limited guy. People are starting to get hyped up about him again and they'll be disappointed by him again when he gets out boxed sometime in the relatively near future.
    Well, maybe you're mistaking me for coming on too strong for Cintron. Basically, he is roughly a B level fighter along with Clottey is what I am saying. But Cintron poses a higher risk. He has KO'd every 147 pounder he fought except 2 or 3. Keeping it real, how many welterweights hit harder? The guy is a really big welterweight and he has power in both hands. Both guys are going to get outboxed by Pac and PBF. And I just don't see how people can be so high on Clottey when he has done nothing special. His best win is either a decision against the lightweight war ridden Corrales or a skin of his teeth technical decision against Judah, who fought with an eventual fight stopping cut. At least Cintron has the puncher's chance. And Clottey's biggest liability isn't lack of mental toughness its lack of offense. When he is getting outboxed by Pac or anyone he has no chance to win. Neither guy has great heart and both wilt but at least Cintron goes in for the kill. I am not very high on Cintron but why should anyone be any higher on Clottey? You know everybody voted this as a good fight so I am in the right to see Cintron as more than just no chance opponent. People like different things and these two definitely fight differently but overall grade they are virtually even.
    Last edited by blegit; 01-16-2010 at 09:39 PM.

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