So what if its Mayweather vs Cintron???

[gest12645]

agreed , Clottey beats Cintron quite easy. Unless you have to knock Cintron out twice to beat him btw, who said that Clottey is very slow? His hand speed is underated imo

[Myk_Myk]

How is this as good a fight as Pac/Clottey? I get the Manny anger but come on, anybody think Cintron beats Clottey? Anyone? I get that styles make fights but when has Cintron looked as good as Clottey ever? Clottey's a bit of a dumb shit but he's a better fighter than Cintron.

I think Cintron is better than Clottey. You have to admit he is absolutely much more dangerous. Overall, these two are on the same level though. Clottey just doesn't have the aggression. His peekaboo defense is too much of his makeup. And the Cotto fight co-signed what I thought the Margarito fight showed and that is Clottey has no heart when the going gets tough. Cintron beat Angulo. Cintron was very impressive in that fight and looked improved. Plus, you have to admit Cintron has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder.

The Cintron fight was a few fights too early for Angulo, but even with his lack of experience and having the flu, he gave Cintron all he could handle. Cintron was really wilting and looked close to folding late in that fight. Was that a tear I saw in his eye? I think only the fact that the fight end was near, gave him the fortitude to finish. The heart issue is a wash, if anything, I give Clottey the nod in that department.

[blegit]

How is this as good a fight as Pac/Clottey? I get the Manny anger but come on, anybody think Cintron beats Clottey? Anyone? I get that styles make fights but when has Cintron looked as good as Clottey ever? Clottey's a bit of a dumb shit but he's a better fighter than Cintron.

I think Cintron is better than Clottey. You have to admit he is absolutely much more dangerous. Overall, these two are on the same level though. Clottey just doesn't have the aggression. His peekaboo defense is too much of his makeup. And the Cotto fight co-signed what I thought the Margarito fight showed and that is Clottey has no heart when the going gets tough. Cintron beat Angulo. Cintron was very impressive in that fight and looked improved. Plus, you have to admit Cintron has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder.

No, I don't have to admit to any of that.

I assume by more dangerous you mean he has more power, meh its overrated but fine he does have more power. So he's got a punchers chance against guys like Floyd and Pac, when you get down to it he's got no chance. Clottey's a tough out for anybody, I could see Clottey beating Mosley and it wouldn't shock me if he beat Pacquiao. It WOULD shock me if Cintron beat any elite fighter. So I totally disagree with the idea that he's more dangerous, he might be more of a danger to land an out of nowhere punch and get a KO but Clottey is far more dangerous in that he's far more likely to just beat you.

Clottey just beat Cotto IMO (although I had it for Cotto first time I saw it) and he beat him even though he tried as hard as he could to give it away. He has no mental toughness or ambition. But he's a much better fighter than Cintron. Even his biggest liability, mental toughness, isn't a strength of Cintron's.

And no I don't have to admit he has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder. Really? When has he shown this ability? Like, ever? I don't know man, I just don't see it.

He beat Angulo, good for him, I didn't pick him to win, but seriously Angulo's a fairly limited guy. People are starting to get hyped up about him again and they'll be disappointed by him again when he gets out boxed sometime in the relatively near future.

Well, maybe you're mistaking me for coming on too strong for Cintron. Basically, he is roughly a B level fighter along with Clottey is what I am saying. But Cintron poses a higher risk. He has KO'd every 147 pounder he fought except 2 or 3. Keeping it real, how many welterweights hit harder? The guy is a really big welterweight and he has power in both hands. Both guys are going to get outboxed by Pac and PBF. And I just don't see how people can be so high on Clottey when he has done nothing special. His best win is either a decision against the lightweight war ridden Corrales or a skin of his teeth technical decision against Judah, who fought with an eventual fight stopping cut. At least Cintron has the puncher's chance. And Clottey's biggest liability isn't lack of mental toughness its lack of offense. When he is getting outboxed by Pac or anyone he has no chance to win. Neither guy has great heart and both wilt but at least Cintron goes in for the kill. I am not very high on Cintron but why should anyone be any higher on Clottey? You know everybody voted this as a good fight so I am in the right to see Cintron as more than just no chance opponent. People like different things and these two definitely fight differently but overall grade they are virtually even.

[blegit]

How is this as good a fight as Pac/Clottey? I get the Manny anger but come on, anybody think Cintron beats Clottey? Anyone? I get that styles make fights but when has Cintron looked as good as Clottey ever? Clottey's a bit of a dumb shit but he's a better fighter than Cintron.

I think Cintron is better than Clottey. You have to admit he is absolutely much more dangerous. Overall, these two are on the same level though. Clottey just doesn't have the aggression. His peekaboo defense is too much of his makeup. And the Cotto fight co-signed what I thought the Margarito fight showed and that is Clottey has no heart when the going gets tough. Cintron beat Angulo. Cintron was very impressive in that fight and looked improved. Plus, you have to admit Cintron has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder.

Id have the house on Clottey beating Cintron.

I wasn't saying Cintron is a better fighter than Clottey. I was answering that Cintron is a better fight than Clottey. Their fight would be too tough to decipher the victor for any house to be on the line. To me, they are both B to B+ welterweights.

[TheBranMan]

No matter who Floyd fights, people will find a way to discredit them. Cintron is a big, dangerous fighter who's fought at jr middleweight before. His only losses coming from his two matches with Marchacheato (and IMO, I think that Martinez had the win over him, however that went down as a draw). He's blasted through everyone else. This fight doesn't have a great risk/reward ratio as Cintron isn't a huge draw, although he is quite dangerous. Still, it's a fight I'd like to see Floyd take, lets hope it materializes.

[ICB]

This is not a bad fight at all just as good as Pacquiao vs Clottey i know it should be Mayweather vs Pacquiao but we aint got that and with a bit of look Mayweather will then either fight Mosley vs Berto winner or Pacquiao.

No its not a good fight, Kermit Cintron was a disgrace against Sergio Martinez. And he was a disgrace quitting and crying against Antonio Margarito, his power is also overrated.

He couldn't even budge Jesse Feliciano, despite hitting him with everything but the kitchen sink. Yet Mike Arnaoutis, Demetrius Hopkins, not known as big punches had Jesse Feliciano out of there in the 1st and 4th round.

Im a Floyd Mayweather Jr fan but i don't really care for this fight, why not fight Berto/Mosley winner ?

[TheBranMan]

I think Cintron is better than Clottey. You have to admit he is absolutely much more dangerous. Overall, these two are on the same level though. Clottey just doesn't have the aggression. His peekaboo defense is too much of his makeup. And the Cotto fight co-signed what I thought the Margarito fight showed and that is Clottey has no heart when the going gets tough. Cintron beat Angulo. Cintron was very impressive in that fight and looked improved. Plus, you have to admit Cintron has the power and aggression to stop any 147 pounder.

Id have the house on Clottey beating Cintron.

I wasn't saying Cintron is a better fighter than Clottey. I was answering that Cintron is a better fight than Clottey. Their fight would be too tough to decipher the victor for any house to be on the line. To me, they are both B to B+ welterweights.

And in the argument over who's better, it's a pretty fair comparison. Clottey is the tight defensive fighter while Cintron is the aggressive machine. This makes sense as Manny will pressure Clottey and Floyd will be pressured by Cintron. Styles make fights and these styles seem to fit together nicely. I'm so excited about these fights that I almost forgot about MW vs Pac

[HattonTheHammer]

would rather watch paint dry than this shit

cintron isnt even worthy to clean the likes of marquez, malignaggi, clottey etc boots

It`ll be very short and very sweet, neither fighter will come out with an ounce of respect for it. This wouldnt of happened 10-15 years back, this is why boxing is in the dolldrums right now!!

[rjj tszyu]

There are a lot worse fights being mentioned at the minute for Mayweather, Matthew Hatton is one of them. That would be a totally overmatched disgrace.

[TheBranMan]

would rather watch paint dry than this shit

cintron isnt even worthy to clean the likes of marquez, malignaggi, clottey etc boots

It`ll be very short and very sweet, neither fighter will come out with an ounce of respect for it. This wouldnt of happened 10-15 years back, this is why boxing is in the dolldrums right now!!

^Example A. If Pac had decided to fight Cintron, you'd be calling him a 'a quick and dangerous puncher, who's far too big'. Since it's Floyd who's looking at it, people are claiming that lightweights could beat him. Personally, I think the only fights that make more sense than Cintron are; PW (if he can even still make 147) and the winner of Mosley/Berto, the latter of which won't be ready to fight by early March. Cintron is a big, solid fighter with respectable power and good all-around athleticism. I don't think he'll be the one to beat Floyd but he definitely has the tools to give him some problems. A good challenge.

[generalbulldog]

This fight if it were to happen is still a lot better than Matt Hatton, Nate Campbell, or Paulie "feather fisted" Maglinaggi.

Cintron is a good fighter, not elite but good enough. Same thing with Clottey.

[blegit]

This fight if it were to happen is still a lot better than Matt Hatton, Nate Campbell, or Paulie "feather fisted" Maglinaggi.

Cintron is a good fighter, not elite but good enough. Same thing with Clottey.

I absolutely agree with you entirely. Pac/Clottey and PBF/Cintron are good enough fights. At least the best of the welterweights would finally be fighting each other and clearing out this mess. Maybe Williams/Collazo next.