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thats because your a clueless clown
ok..time to take you to school...again...first Green has lost to everyone in the upper tier of fighters meaning he is no longer an up and comer but a stepping stone.....he has wins over Sullivan(ranked 288th), Garcia(ranked 262), Crawford(ranked 232) beat Gonzales due to cuts and was Knocked down in the second round.....and as for Echols aside from being 34 and entering the downside of his career he is ranked 52nd and has a whole list of recent victorys over bums.....so no....Mundine has yet to beat a top tier fighter....he has beaten almosts and also rans....sorry but facts are facts....I'm not saying he will never have a chance at winning a title but as it stands right now he needs a victory over someone ranked 15th or higher in the division to be seen as a true contender...losing title fights doesn't count because they are still losses....
Are you a boxrec fighter that looks at rankings NOW? Do you have any idea what they were ranked when Green and Mundine fought them? And btw, you said Green loses to the upper tier fighters, he just lost to Mundine so you contradict your statement

Not that you'll need me to get at you. Snakey will pretty much handle it once he sees your comments
as i said before you twisted my words to fit your comment....Mundine has yet to beat a top tier fighter....Green was never a top tier fighter.....he beat a stepping stone fighter but cant advance to the next level.....upper tier fighters I was talking about would be Kessler and at the time Ottke......I have never said green was an Upper tier fighter....and everyone knows that fighters with good record get over ranked until they lose to a decent fighter....then the reality and true rankings set in.....which is why having Froch(a definite up and comer) ranked so high is a little overhyped until he gets a few more fights under his belt ....top 15 fighters and the lkikes....then if he wins it will be deserved outright.....but if he loses to the 15th ranked fighter then his #3 ranking would have been way off and he probably should have been ranked in the 20's or high teens...that's all...