Schaefer: Mosley-Floyd in the Works

[killersheep]

Really? Because where I live, nobody who isn't a boxing fan knows who Shane Mosley is, but almost all sports fans know about Pacquiao. Shane Mosley hasn't been on any of the sports channels as long as I've been watching them, but Pacquiao's most recent fights (from De La Hoya onwards) were all heavily covered. I assume the same is true across the entire country, as we all watch the same mainstream sports coverage.

Mosley is more known where I live, because boxing was much more popular here when Mosley was the next big thing, than it is now. Pacquiao has definitely been getting his name out there, but Shane is more recognizable here.

Yeah, the casual fans really hopped on board during the Oscar era where I lived. I remember the Oscar/Mosley fights were some of the biggest in terms of popularity. Same with Oscar/Trinidad. Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad were some of the household names at that time & thats when boxing was alot bigger than it is now. Mayweather, Pacquiao are the big names of today but boxing isn't as big as it used to be.

That's exactly it.

[CFH]

Really? Because where I live, nobody who isn't a boxing fan knows who Shane Mosley is, but almost all sports fans know about Pacquiao. Shane Mosley hasn't been on any of the sports channels as long as I've been watching them, but Pacquiao's most recent fights (from De La Hoya onwards) were all heavily covered. I assume the same is true across the entire country, as we all watch the same mainstream sports coverage.

Mosley is more known where I live, because boxing was much more popular here when Mosley was the next big thing, than it is now. Pacquiao has definitely been getting his name out there, but Shane is more recognizable here.

Yeah, the casual fans really hopped on board during the Oscar era where I lived. I remember the Oscar/Mosley fights were some of the biggest in terms of popularity. Same with Oscar/Trinidad. Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad were some of the household names at that time & thats when boxing was alot bigger than it is now. Mayweather, Pacquiao are the big names of today but boxing isn't as big as it used to be.

Maybe we Canadians just have short memories

[generalbulldog]

I disagree.

Mosley vs Floyd has been 10 years in the making. Neither man has ever been knocked out.
Pacs been stopped afew times and lost to Morales. Plus he has accusations of roids hanging over him . Now he is taking on a guy who lost to Baldimor so his rep has plummeted and the interest has gone out of that fight.

Mosley vs Floyd is the big 1. Cant wait

I understand that you would rather see Mayweather - Mosley, but the general public, casual, and dedicated boxing fans would all rather see see Mayweather - Pacquaio and nothing you've said provides any evidence to the contrary. Mosley just isn't as well known as Pacquiao and there's much more demand for Mayweather - Pacquiao.

Mosley not as well known as Pacquiao? Hmmm..Gotta disagree with you. I think more people would buy a Pac/Mayweather fight because its #1 vs. #2. But in terms of sheer popularity alone I'd have to say Mosley is a bigger household name than Pacquiao. Remember Mosley was the biggest name right under Oscar for a while.

I may be wrong but I know many more casual fans (people who dont follow the sport but just buy the big ppvs) knew of Mosley back in his heyday than casual fans know of Pacquiao right now (although both numbers are big). Mosley just took a hit in terms of clout, but I dont think his fame ever took a hit. People looked at him differently after loses & PEDs but they cant just forget him.

In my opinion Mosley is even a bigger household name than Mayweather. Mayweather is the bigger draw because of his stature in the sport compared to Shane's, but i'd wager that more people know the name Sugar Shane Mosley over Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

The casual fans know Shane more than Pacquiao? Are you talking about the casual American fan or just the casual fan (which would mean any racial and ethnic group)?

I made a post here awhile back talking about how massively popular Pacquiao was in Asia when I vacation there during December. Tokyo and Hong Kong are the 2 most advanced and globalized cities of the far east and he was well known on the streets there to the average Joe. Those were 2 cities I was in. I seriously doubt the average Chinese or Japanese or any other Asian group would know who Shane Mosley was. And add to the fact that Pacquiao has fought many Latino fighters from Mexicans, Dominican, and Puerto Ricans where boxing is popular in those countries and I say those people would more than likely know who he is.

On an American level maybe Shane is more well known, but on a global level it's not even close.

[Kel]

I disagree.

Mosley vs Floyd has been 10 years in the making. Neither man has ever been knocked out.
Pacs been stopped afew times and lost to Morales. Plus he has accusations of roids hanging over him . Now he is taking on a guy who lost to Baldimor so his rep has plummeted and the interest has gone out of that fight.

Mosley vs Floyd is the big 1. Cant wait

I understand that you would rather see Mayweather - Mosley, but the general public, casual, and dedicated boxing fans would all rather see see Mayweather - Pacquaio and nothing you've said provides any evidence to the contrary. Mosley just isn't as well known as Pacquiao and there's much more demand for Mayweather - Pacquiao.

Mosley not as well known as Pacquiao? Hmmm..Gotta disagree with you. I think more people would buy a Pac/Mayweather fight because its #1 vs. #2. But in terms of sheer popularity alone I'd have to say Mosley is a bigger household name than Pacquiao. Remember Mosley was the biggest name right under Oscar for a while.

I may be wrong but I know many more casual fans (people who dont follow the sport but just buy the big ppvs) knew of Mosley back in his heyday than casual fans know of Pacquiao right now (although both numbers are big). Mosley just took a hit in terms of clout, but I dont think his fame ever took a hit. People looked at him differently after loses & PEDs but they cant just forget him.

In my opinion Mosley is even a bigger household name than Mayweather. Mayweather is the bigger draw because of his stature in the sport compared to Shane's, but i'd wager that more people know the name Sugar Shane Mosley over Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

In the UK Shane is quite unknown to the casual fan. I force boxing talk on every poor fucker I meet lol and I think maybe 2-3 people have known who he was. Everyone in the UK knows Ricky and they know it was Pac who flattened him in 2 rounds. Along with the Cotto, De la Hoya wins I think it may be the same over the pond?

[rjj tszyu]

If this comes off I think it will be Mosley's last fight. I don't see him beating Floyd and Floyd will IMO put on a great show and punish Mosley throughout. I just can't see Mosley winning this. 10 years younger then yes i'd have given him a chance (although Mayweather would still be favourite for me), but now I think people are reading too much into what he did to Margarito and are forgetting the struggle he had with Mayorga who Oscar blew away with ease just before he got beaten off Floyd.

I hope I am wrong and this is more of a contest because Mosley used to be one of my favourites before he was found to be cheating and a great war involving Mayweather would tell us a lot about just how great he is in comparison to the old timers, I just don't see it.