Schaefer: Mosley-Floyd in the Works

[GAME]

If it happens this isn't such a bad consolation prize for the fallout of the megafight between Floyd and Manny.

Shane vs Mayweather is bigger han Floyd vs Manny

How so? Pacquiao - Mayweather would be the biggest fight in the last decade.

I disagree.

Mosley vs Floyd has been 10 years in the making. Neither man has ever been knocked out.
Pacs been stopped afew times and lost to Morales. Plus he has accusations of roids hanging over him . Now he is taking on a guy who lost to Baldimor so his rep has plummeted and the interest has gone out of that fight.

Mosley vs Floyd is the big 1. Cant wait

[skel1983]

Shane vs Mayweather is bigger han Floyd vs Manny

How so? Pacquiao - Mayweather would be the biggest fight in the last decade.

I disagree.

Mosley vs Floyd has been 10 years in the making. Neither man has ever been knocked out.
Pacs been stopped afew times and lost to Morales. Plus he has accusations of roids hanging over him . Now he is taking on a guy who lost to Baldimor so his rep has plummeted and the interest has gone out of that fight.

Mosley vs Floyd is the big 1. Cant wait

Mate I usually agree with most things you say. But yout logic is insane, you could say Mosley was beaton by Cotto who Pac destroyed, how the hell is a 37 year old Mosley who would have been out the ring for 14 months v Floyd be bigger than p4p number 1 against p4p number 2??

[Rantcatrat]

Shane vs Mayweather is bigger han Floyd vs Manny

How so? Pacquiao - Mayweather would be the biggest fight in the last decade.

I disagree.

Mosley vs Floyd has been 10 years in the making. Neither man has ever been knocked out.
Pacs been stopped afew times and lost to Morales. Plus he has accusations of roids hanging over him . Now he is taking on a guy who lost to Baldimor so his rep has plummeted and the interest has gone out of that fight.

Mosley vs Floyd is the big 1. Cant wait

Disagree unless you are saying Mosley v. Mayweather will be a more competitive fight in which, I agree.

But first, of course Mayweather v. Mosley > Pacman v. Clottey

Mosley's already tested positive for performance enhancing drugs. And Pac just been accused. Big difference. If anything that makes Mosley not as big of a fight.

Pac right now has a bigger fan base than Mosley. Mosley throughout his career has never been a big ticket seller. Pacquiao is world renown, Mosley isn't.

Pac and Mosley have both lost. How they lost doesn't really matter.

[boxer dude]

In my opinion Mayweather vs Pacman could have been the fight of the decade, and not just because of ticket sales but because of their styles. No fight could replace it, Mayweather vs Mosley however is the next best thing, with honorable mentions to a Mayweather - Williams.

[J_Undisputed]

If it gets made, Shane should be allowed to act on his own till fight night. Let the two joust a little in the media and let it be like fight without money cuts and connections being publicized. Popularity contests, steroid historys, irs audits, its all fair game... but let this be a two man fight.

In other words, KEEP YOUR FCKIN MOUTH SHUT, HOPKINS!!! or run the risk of this fight getting away because some of the golden boy crew were acting like d*uches and and Mayweather walks away because he felt offended, disrespected or ganged up on. Just a word to the wise.

[Diane]

I said it before, and I'll say it again. Floyd will find a way for this fight not to happen, and then blame it on Mosley.

He will not get into the ring with anyone that stands a chance at beating him. That zero on his record means more to him than anything. Yes, even money. He doesn't get that the boxing world wouldn't give a $hit if he had a loss on this record, as long as he fought the best. To him, that zero means legacy, more so than fighting the best.

I will be shocked as $hit, if this fight gets made.

[boxer dude]

No I think the fight will happen, I think Floyd must know that the fans are getting tired of him ducking the best. I think the boxing world would find it unacceptable if he went on to fight some other shmuck he could easily handle. If the fight don't happen I for one will start boycotting his fights.

[Rantcatrat]

I said it before, and I'll say it again. Floyd will find a way for this fight not to happen, and then blame it on Mosley.

He will not get into the ring with anyone that stands a chance at beating him. That zero on his record means more to him than anything. Yes, even money. He doesn't get that the boxing world wouldn't give a $hit if he had a loss on this record, as long as he fought the best. To him, that zero means legacy, more so than fighting the best.

I will be shocked as $hit, if this fight gets made.

There really is no excuse for this fight to be made now that Berto is out. It is the biggest fight at welterweight other than Pac/PBF. Nothing else compares. It would be very odd if PBF didn't make this fight happen now. It "one-ups" Pacquiao; it is the biggest money fight; and, he and Shane have been talking about it for ten years.

All that said, I'm sure Berto has a postponement clause in his contract and he'll be entitled to fight the winner, be paid to step aside, or a little bit of both as Greg Leon says in this article: BOXINGTALK

[CFH]

Shane vs Mayweather is bigger han Floyd vs Manny

How so? Pacquiao - Mayweather would be the biggest fight in the last decade.

I disagree.

Mosley vs Floyd has been 10 years in the making. Neither man has ever been knocked out.
Pacs been stopped afew times and lost to Morales. Plus he has accusations of roids hanging over him . Now he is taking on a guy who lost to Baldimor so his rep has plummeted and the interest has gone out of that fight.

Mosley vs Floyd is the big 1. Cant wait

I understand that you would rather see Mayweather - Mosley, but the general public, casual, and dedicated boxing fans would all rather see see Mayweather - Pacquaio and nothing you've said provides any evidence to the contrary. Mosley just isn't as well known as Pacquiao and there's much more demand for Mayweather - Pacquiao.

[knodaledge]

How so? Pacquiao - Mayweather would be the biggest fight in the last decade.

I disagree.

Mosley vs Floyd has been 10 years in the making. Neither man has ever been knocked out.
Pacs been stopped afew times and lost to Morales. Plus he has accusations of roids hanging over him . Now he is taking on a guy who lost to Baldimor so his rep has plummeted and the interest has gone out of that fight.

Mosley vs Floyd is the big 1. Cant wait

I understand that you would rather see Mayweather - Mosley, but the general public, casual, and dedicated boxing fans would all rather see see Mayweather - Pacquaio and nothing you've said provides any evidence to the contrary. Mosley just isn't as well known as Pacquiao and there's much more demand for Mayweather - Pacquiao.

Mosley not as well known as Pacquiao? Hmmm..Gotta disagree with you. I think more people would buy a Pac/Mayweather fight because its #1 vs. #2. But in terms of sheer popularity alone I'd have to say Mosley is a bigger household name than Pacquiao. Remember Mosley was the biggest name right under Oscar for a while.

I may be wrong but I know many more casual fans (people who dont follow the sport but just buy the big ppvs) knew of Mosley back in his heyday than casual fans know of Pacquiao right now (although both numbers are big). Mosley just took a hit in terms of clout, but I dont think his fame ever took a hit. People looked at him differently after loses & PEDs but they cant just forget him.

In my opinion Mosley is even a bigger household name than Mayweather. Mayweather is the bigger draw because of his stature in the sport compared to Shane's, but i'd wager that more people know the name Sugar Shane Mosley over Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[KananKrus]

I hope this fight happens, an excellent match, and it will be good for boxing. Will it tho... as recent history allows pessimism a bit of a hold on its fruition.

This gets made, it'll be the kind of stuff that'll make people hope that there's still logic in putting faith in the powers that be, in the sport of boxing.

[CFH]

I disagree.

Mosley vs Floyd has been 10 years in the making. Neither man has ever been knocked out.
Pacs been stopped afew times and lost to Morales. Plus he has accusations of roids hanging over him . Now he is taking on a guy who lost to Baldimor so his rep has plummeted and the interest has gone out of that fight.

Mosley vs Floyd is the big 1. Cant wait

I understand that you would rather see Mayweather - Mosley, but the general public, casual, and dedicated boxing fans would all rather see see Mayweather - Pacquaio and nothing you've said provides any evidence to the contrary. Mosley just isn't as well known as Pacquiao and there's much more demand for Mayweather - Pacquiao.

Mosley not as well known as Pacquiao? Hmmm..Gotta disagree with you. I think more people would buy a Pac/Mayweather fight because its #1 vs. #2. But in terms of sheer popularity alone I'd have to say Mosley is a bigger household name than Pacquiao. Remember Mosley was the biggest name right under Oscar for a while.

I may be wrong but I know many more casual fans (people who dont follow the sport but just buy the big ppvs) knew of Mosley back in his heyday than casual fans know of Pacquiao right now (although both numbers are big). Mosley just took a hit in terms of clout, but I dont think his fame ever took a hit. People looked at him differently after loses & PEDs but they cant just forget him.

In my opinion Mosley is even a bigger household name than Mayweather. Mayweather is the bigger draw because of his stature in the sport compared to Shane's, but i'd wager that more people know the name Sugar Shane Mosley over Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Really? Because where I live, nobody who isn't a boxing fan knows who Shane Mosley is, but almost all sports fans know about Pacquiao. Shane Mosley hasn't been on any of the sports channels as long as I've been watching them, but Pacquiao's most recent fights (from De La Hoya onwards) were all heavily covered. I assume the same is true across the entire country, as we all watch the same mainstream sports coverage.

[killersheep]

I understand that you would rather see Mayweather - Mosley, but the general public, casual, and dedicated boxing fans would all rather see see Mayweather - Pacquaio and nothing you've said provides any evidence to the contrary. Mosley just isn't as well known as Pacquiao and there's much more demand for Mayweather - Pacquiao.

Mosley not as well known as Pacquiao? Hmmm..Gotta disagree with you. I think more people would buy a Pac/Mayweather fight because its #1 vs. #2. But in terms of sheer popularity alone I'd have to say Mosley is a bigger household name than Pacquiao. Remember Mosley was the biggest name right under Oscar for a while.

I may be wrong but I know many more casual fans (people who dont follow the sport but just buy the big ppvs) knew of Mosley back in his heyday than casual fans know of Pacquiao right now (although both numbers are big). Mosley just took a hit in terms of clout, but I dont think his fame ever took a hit. People looked at him differently after loses & PEDs but they cant just forget him.

In my opinion Mosley is even a bigger household name than Mayweather. Mayweather is the bigger draw because of his stature in the sport compared to Shane's, but i'd wager that more people know the name Sugar Shane Mosley over Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Really? Because where I live, nobody who isn't a boxing fan knows who Shane Mosley is, but almost all sports fans know about Pacquiao. Shane Mosley hasn't been on any of the sports channels as long as I've been watching them, but Pacquiao's most recent fights (from De La Hoya onwards) were all heavily covered. I assume the same is true across the entire country, as we all watch the same mainstream sports coverage.

Mosley is more known where I live, because boxing was much more popular here when Mosley was the next big thing, than it is now. Pacquiao has definitely been getting his name out there, but Shane is more recognizable here.

[CFH]

Mosley not as well known as Pacquiao? Hmmm..Gotta disagree with you. I think more people would buy a Pac/Mayweather fight because its #1 vs. #2. But in terms of sheer popularity alone I'd have to say Mosley is a bigger household name than Pacquiao. Remember Mosley was the biggest name right under Oscar for a while.

I may be wrong but I know many more casual fans (people who dont follow the sport but just buy the big ppvs) knew of Mosley back in his heyday than casual fans know of Pacquiao right now (although both numbers are big). Mosley just took a hit in terms of clout, but I dont think his fame ever took a hit. People looked at him differently after loses & PEDs but they cant just forget him.

In my opinion Mosley is even a bigger household name than Mayweather. Mayweather is the bigger draw because of his stature in the sport compared to Shane's, but i'd wager that more people know the name Sugar Shane Mosley over Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Really? Because where I live, nobody who isn't a boxing fan knows who Shane Mosley is, but almost all sports fans know about Pacquiao. Shane Mosley hasn't been on any of the sports channels as long as I've been watching them, but Pacquiao's most recent fights (from De La Hoya onwards) were all heavily covered. I assume the same is true across the entire country, as we all watch the same mainstream sports coverage.

Mosley is more known where I live, because boxing was much more popular here when Mosley was the next big thing, than it is now. Pacquiao has definitely been getting his name out there, but Shane is more recognizable here.

That's very interesting, I had no idea. Maybe it's a cultural/national thing then? Boxing is not very popular in Canada outside of Montreal, so maybe it's covered a bit differently in the States? Honestly, I'm surprised to hear that. No one knows who Shane Mosley is here (though almost every sports fan knows of De La Hoya).

[knodaledge]

Mosley not as well known as Pacquiao? Hmmm..Gotta disagree with you. I think more people would buy a Pac/Mayweather fight because its #1 vs. #2. But in terms of sheer popularity alone I'd have to say Mosley is a bigger household name than Pacquiao. Remember Mosley was the biggest name right under Oscar for a while.

I may be wrong but I know many more casual fans (people who dont follow the sport but just buy the big ppvs) knew of Mosley back in his heyday than casual fans know of Pacquiao right now (although both numbers are big). Mosley just took a hit in terms of clout, but I dont think his fame ever took a hit. People looked at him differently after loses & PEDs but they cant just forget him.

In my opinion Mosley is even a bigger household name than Mayweather. Mayweather is the bigger draw because of his stature in the sport compared to Shane's, but i'd wager that more people know the name Sugar Shane Mosley over Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Really? Because where I live, nobody who isn't a boxing fan knows who Shane Mosley is, but almost all sports fans know about Pacquiao. Shane Mosley hasn't been on any of the sports channels as long as I've been watching them, but Pacquiao's most recent fights (from De La Hoya onwards) were all heavily covered. I assume the same is true across the entire country, as we all watch the same mainstream sports coverage.

Mosley is more known where I live, because boxing was much more popular here when Mosley was the next big thing, than it is now. Pacquiao has definitely been getting his name out there, but Shane is more recognizable here.

Yeah, the casual fans really hopped on board during the Oscar era where I lived. I remember the Oscar/Mosley fights were some of the biggest in terms of popularity. Same with Oscar/Trinidad. Oscar, Mosley, Trinidad were some of the household names at that time & thats when boxing was alot bigger than it is now. Mayweather, Pacquiao are the big names of today but boxing isn't as big as it used to be.