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could not agree more Hulk
....oh please do go on, I wish to hear the tales of the olden days where heavyweight Champions never lost, never got hurt, never got knocked down, never ran out of gas, and never got outboxed but they fought the hands down greatest fighters of all time and beat them but in beating them they never took away the glory of their fallen foes.


Explain to me this logic please....do you think guys like Miguel Angel Paez and Terry Sorrell and Scott LeDoux and Jose Roman could hang with Wladimir Klitschko? Do you think Chuvalo could? Do you think Frazier could?

....I'm not trying to say Wladimir is a top 10 all time heavyweight, I'm not trying to say anything like that but for you guys to continue this bullshit acting like he's not even a challenge to anyone from the past eras.....you're just being fucking foolish. Who was 6'7, 243 pounds, with KO power AND world class boxing skill back then? NO-FREAKING-BODY that's who!

We may as well say "John L Sullivan was much better than Foreman, I mean look how he fought, look at his record, AND he fought bare knuckled, AND they drank whiskey between rounds instead of water AND blah blah blah blah".....the FACT is Wladimir has lost 3 times 1 early in his career, and two more times nearly back to back which he eventually rebounded from and he's been dominant ever since. But I'm sure you guys will just go back and focus on those losses, forgetting all about Jimmy Young and him beating George Foreman or Foreman being dropped by Ron Lyle who more than likely didn't punch as hard as Wlad.....but that's cool you guys just go about your merry ignorant ways
Smoking Joe would have done much more than just hang with Wlad, he would have probably knocked him out, and yeah when your as big as Wlad u have a chance to hang with anyone. The way the question was asked "could george have beaten wlad" was all wrong if anything it should have been the other way around. And screw going all the way back to "the old days" just go back a few years to the late 80's and even mid 90's to the days of Bowe, Holyfield, Holmes, Tyson, and Lewis and Wlad would have been nothing more than a contender. But the division has indeed sucked for so long that we have indeed forgoten what a true heavyweight warrior looks like.