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    Default Re: Super heavy? Super stupid

    I agree we need to bump up the weight of the cruisers & get rid of these timy increase lower weights! less weights & 1 title per division is the way to get boxing back on top!

    regarding the heavyweight division i remember when u could pick up a book & look at every heavyweight champ all thru history (cos there was only 1 belt) now its a fkin mess & super heavy would make it 10 times worse.

    i started a thread asking was it time for a superheavy catergary & i got slated & rightly so!

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    Ridiculous.............
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    Default Re: Super heavy? Super stupid

    I think HBO and showtime need to agree not to acknowledge this crap.

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    Default Re: Super heavy? Super stupid

    I would vote that in 10 years they create the seriously super heavyweight belt as well. As all credibility is lost, why not going to the end in that remark?
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    Default Re: Super heavy? Super stupid

    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    I think HBO and showtime need to agree not to acknowledge this crap.
    But think of the problem it would create. If my understanding is correct they have a contract with the Klitschkos so they would be obligated to broadcast or just cough up the cash. So given the diluted nature of a super heavyweight division, HBO and Showtime should step up and say no as well. The ABC titles must make a nice amount of cash off their associations with the two networks.

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    Klits are tall and big but shit I'm not even sure they'd fall in the super heavy category, it would mostly be short fat guys to lazy to get in shape...dum fuckin idea but hey could we expect anything else from the sanctioning bodies...how did they ever come to control the sport...

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    Default Re: Super heavy? Super stupid

    How bout boxers concentrate more on offensive defense like slipping the jab and getting inside, head movement of any sought on the way in. This is where the problem is, its not the size of the fighter. The heavies just need to improve their skill set, gone are the days of just walk in and hit hard. I say anyone with good head movement would trouble wlad, he is no where near cofident on the inside and nor should he be...hes 6'6 and if hes fighting on the inside then hes got a fuckin problem coz that shouldnt be his gameplan. Exactly like if your 6'2 and fighting Wlad and your on the outside then you should just quit now, thats not how you beat someone with a height advantage.

    Fuck the idea of a super heavyweight division, its just fuckin stupid.
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    Default Re: Super heavy? Super stupid

    No Super-Heavyweight division is needed, absolutely NOT, and Jose Sulaiman has been one of the most cursed scourges to Boxing in history.

    Why has 5'9" fat, old, blown up middleweight James Toney without heavyweight power been able to successfully compete with modern Heavyweights?

    How did 6', feather-fisted, blown up 168 pounder Chris Byrd become a Heavyweight title holder in the New Millennium ?

    Who gave 6'5" 244 lb Lennox Lewis his toughest fights?
    Rahman and McCall aren't giants.
    6'2" Holyfield was a natural 188 pounder who bulked up to about 215.

    Ruslan's only 6'1"
    Sultan Ibragimov is usually below 220 lbs.

    David Haye is 215.


    Size is only an advantage to the point where it compromises speed, athleticism, and endurance.

    A lot of these 244 lbs Heavyweights these days carry a helluva lot of fat into the ring with them too; if they actually trained that fat off the way fighters in other weight-classes do, almost all of these guys would be in the 205 to 225 lbs range.



    It p!$$es me off to see dead-heads like these sanctioning bodies getting together to further damage boxing in their transparent effort to make a few extra dollars.



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    Let's also not forget another aging former middleweight champ, 5'11" Roy Jones, successfully taking a Heavyweight title in the modern era.

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    Default Re: Super heavy? Super stupid

    The creation of SUPER Heavyweight division would be tragically ironic.
    Having said that, i do still welcome the idea of essentially bridging the Gap between Cruiserweights and the Big Men... Whole heartedly AND with a passion.

    Would it be so bad if there was a Super Cruiserweight Division
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