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    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
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    How do we know Marquez doesn't look good past 135? He was up against Mayweather....probably the most talented fighter of a generation. How do you think Maidana would look against him? Much worse would be my guess.

    The thing is, you're rating him as a con job and a hype job yet your using all time greats as yard-sticks to who he should be fighting.

    This forum is unbelievable at times.
    I'm using all time greats as an measuring stick because you guys that are Khan supporters keep on using this mantra, "He's only 23" as if that's an excuse to fight powderpuffs and past their prime fighters. You guys are thinking that 23 is not good enough to step up in competition, but it's been done before in boxing, hence why I'm using those legends as examples. Salita? Kotelnik? A shot 1 eye Barrera? But hey he's only 23. Next year when he fights mostly bums and has beens again it's hey he's only 24, then only 25, then only 26, etc.

    And yeah I seriously think Marquez can't handle 140. Why? Common sense man. If he was struggling at 135 to beat Casamayor and Diaz then it's common sense he's going to struggle at 140, especially at being 37 this year with a shitload of fights and wear and tear.

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    Yeah he's ranked 5th by the ring p4p but does this mean he takes Tim Bradley or even the Con boy who's not ranked at all in the top p4p lists? SO what's your point of bringing up the p4p list? ANd Hatton is a shot fighter, JMM may be on the decline but not shot yet, he has a chance there but against Bradley or Con boy? The chances are slim for the man.
    Why's it common sense? He stopped both Diaz and Casamayor in his only 2 fights at that weight. If you're going to use his performance against Mayweather at 147 to say he cannot handle it, then i am equally justified in using his performances at 135 to justify that he can handle it.

    If you think a 23 year old fighting a top 5 pound 4 pounder is 'powderpuff' then you need to take your head for a shit. Seriously.

    If you don't think Marquez is a step up from competition then i really don't know what to say.

    Tell you what, show me another 23 year old current fighter with a better resume...
    Just replying to your last comment.

    Roman Gonzalez
    Devon Alexander will have when he beats Juan Urango
    Koki Kameda

    Some of these are debatable of course.

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    Default Re: Who Would You Most Want To See Khan Fight Next??

    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ono View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post

    I'm using all time greats as an measuring stick because you guys that are Khan supporters keep on using this mantra, "He's only 23" as if that's an excuse to fight powderpuffs and past their prime fighters. You guys are thinking that 23 is not good enough to step up in competition, but it's been done before in boxing, hence why I'm using those legends as examples. Salita? Kotelnik? A shot 1 eye Barrera? But hey he's only 23. Next year when he fights mostly bums and has beens again it's hey he's only 24, then only 25, then only 26, etc.

    And yeah I seriously think Marquez can't handle 140. Why? Common sense man. If he was struggling at 135 to beat Casamayor and Diaz then it's common sense he's going to struggle at 140, especially at being 37 this year with a shitload of fights and wear and tear.

    @Fenster
    Yeah he's ranked 5th by the ring p4p but does this mean he takes Tim Bradley or even the Con boy who's not ranked at all in the top p4p lists? SO what's your point of bringing up the p4p list? ANd Hatton is a shot fighter, JMM may be on the decline but not shot yet, he has a chance there but against Bradley or Con boy? The chances are slim for the man.
    Why's it common sense? He stopped both Diaz and Casamayor in his only 2 fights at that weight. If you're going to use his performance against Mayweather at 147 to say he cannot handle it, then i am equally justified in using his performances at 135 to justify that he can handle it.

    If you think a 23 year old fighting a top 5 pound 4 pounder is 'powderpuff' then you need to take your head for a shit. Seriously.

    If you don't think Marquez is a step up from competition then i really don't know what to say.

    Tell you what, show me another 23 year old current fighter with a better resume...
    Just replying to your last comment.

    Roman Gonzalez
    Devon Alexander will have when he beats Juan Urango
    Koki Kameda

    Some of these are debatable of course.
    The searching of Boxrec only found 3....which are all debatable. It's tough, because they aren't many...which obviously you know with you not being daft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post

    Just replying to your last comment.

    Roman Gonzalez
    Devon Alexander will have when he beats Juan Urango
    Koki Kameda

    Some of these are debatable of course.
    Alexander's resume is shit, he's got Witter & that's it (& truthfully Witter ain't much better than Kotelnik). Even if he beats Urango, I'd say Khan still has one that is debatably better. I think Alexander is the guy who really gets over-rated in the light-welterweight divisions.

    Gonzalez maybe & Kameda certainly have better resumes in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by ono
    Apparently he's really cocky.

    He followed the Klitschko's around Germany demanding a fight but then pulled out through 'injury' when his TV deal collapsed.

    Then he told the world that if Mayweather stood toe to toe with him in the ring he'd 'fucking eat him', ...before face planting into a turnbuckle.

    Then he spent the rest of his career calling out Joe Calzaghe despite never really doing anything that warranted a shot. I believe that's how he made his name actually.

    Oh wait...


    At least Haye gets shit for his cockiness, Froch & Hatton seem to get anything they say swept under the carpet (although since becoming World Champ, many seem to have taken Haye's arrogance as 'charm'). At least in Froch's case you might argue that no one knows who he is, but old witch-nose is probably the most arrogant fighter from these shores I can remember relative to his skill-set. Well, apart from Anthony Small

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    It's crazy to me to think people would actually rather see Khan fight the very raw Maidana rather then Marquez, actually it blows my mind. And if Khan doesn't deserve a shot at JMM, who does? I mean fuck didn't Rocky Juarez fight Marquez, were people outraged then?

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    I'd like to see Amir Khan fight Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley, as someone said in another thread. Amir Khan hasn't earnt his shot against JMM. And i sense something fishy about the fight aswell, like Freddie Roach knows JMM won't be effective at 140.

    Of course Amir Khan still would deserve credit for the win, but Freddie Roach is a smart man. And IMO JMM looked to be pushing his luck at 135, and the fact he won actually shows how good he is. Because he clearly wasn't at his best at 135.

    I don't think JMM has the frame to move up like Manny Pacquiao, he looked pretty fleshy vs Floyd Mayweather Jr. And at 140 being 37 it just seems to be all against JMM, plus all the advantages Amir Khan holds. Like being naturally alot bigger. And having a big reach advantage.

    I'd rather see Amir Khan take on a legit 140 pounder, someone like Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley, there title holders and as i said they would be good fights. Or even Marcos Rene Maidana just because he's a puncher, or what about a rematch vs Breidis Prescott ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    I'd like to see Amir Khan fight Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley, as someone said in another thread. Amir Khan hasn't earnt his shot against JMM. And i sense something fishy about the fight aswell, like Freddie Roach knows JMM won't be effective at 140.

    Of course Amir Khan still would deserve credit for the win, but Freddie Roach is a smart man. And IMO JMM looked to be pushing his luck at 135, and the fact he won actually shows how good he is. Because he clearly wasn't at his best at 135.

    I don't think JMM has the frame to move up like Manny Pacquiao, he looked pretty fleshy vs Floyd Mayweather Jr. And at 140 being 37 it just seems to be all against JMM, plus all the advantages Amir Khan holds. Like being naturally alot bigger. And having a big reach advantage.

    I'd rather see Amir Khan take on a legit 140 pounder, someone like Devon Alexander or Timothy Bradley, there title holders and as i said they would be good fights. Or even Marcos Rene Maidana just because he's a puncher, or what about a rematch vs Breidis Prescott ?
    Even though everyone criticizes Roach for being an loudmouth, he knows the game inside and out. He knows when it is an perfect opportunity to take a fight. He even said this himself that certain fights are perfect at certain times. A prime example would be a shot and weight drain De La Hoya who couldn't pull the trigger anymore or a shot Barerra moving up in weight. He's banking that JMM is either shot or on the serious decline coupled with fighting at 140 that Khan has all the advantages.

    BTW didn't Roach said he wanted Khan to fight Erik Morales awhile back? Well there you go. Why would he suggest such a thing? Because Morales is a legend and a shot fighter. Perfect for con boy to fight him.

    Con boy isn't going to get in with a prime fighter like an Bradley anytime soon, unless Bradley starts seriously declining or becomes shot in 2 years then yeah he lets con boy fight him.

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    Default Re: Who Would You Most Want To See Khan Fight Next??

    There really is some garbage being flung at Khan on this forum when I think about it, this thread is a pile of crap for the most part. People want to detract from the idea of him fighting Marquez by saying he's to old, or can't be effective past 135, really need to start thinking a little more imo. You think Maidana would beat JMM at 140 pounds? He'd have about as much chance as I would for christs sake, get real. I think someone hit the nail on the head with regards to people just wanting to see Khan lose to a crude puncher in order to gloat about it, what a pile of crap. When did Marquez suddenly become a powderpuff who couldn't possibly dent the chin of Amir Khan Not to mention the fact that he would be landing a LOT more than Maidana. Furthermore, even IF(which is a completely delluded if, I might add) you actually think Maidana is more likely to beat Khan, how the hell can you fault the kid for instead wanting to fight Marquez, a p4p fighter who would bring him massive exposure and a huge purse win lose or draw? No fighter in the sport would EVER take option A in a similar scenario, it just makes no sense.

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