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    Default Re: Who Would You Most Want To See Khan Fight Next??

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    How do we know Marquez doesn't look good past 135? He was up against Mayweather....probably the most talented fighter of a generation. How do you think Maidana would look against him? Much worse would be my guess.

    The thing is, you're rating him as a con job and a hype job yet your using all time greats as yard-sticks to who he should be fighting.

    This forum is unbelievable at times.
    I'm using all time greats as an measuring stick because you guys that are Khan supporters keep on using this mantra, "He's only 23" as if that's an excuse to fight powderpuffs and past their prime fighters. You guys are thinking that 23 is not good enough to step up in competition, but it's been done before in boxing, hence why I'm using those legends as examples. Salita? Kotelnik? A shot 1 eye Barrera? But hey he's only 23. Next year when he fights mostly bums and has beens again it's hey he's only 24, then only 25, then only 26, etc.

    And yeah I seriously think Marquez can't handle 140. Why? Common sense man. If he was struggling at 135 to beat Casamayor and Diaz then it's common sense he's going to struggle at 140, especially at being 37 this year with a shitload of fights and wear and tear.

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    Yeah he's ranked 5th by the ring p4p but does this mean he takes Tim Bradley or even the Con boy who's not ranked at all in the top p4p lists? SO what's your point of bringing up the p4p list? ANd Hatton is a shot fighter, JMM may be on the decline but not shot yet, he has a chance there but against Bradley or Con boy? The chances are slim for the man.
    Why's it common sense? He stopped both Diaz and Casamayor in his only 2 fights at that weight. If you're going to use his performance against Mayweather at 147 to say he cannot handle it, then i am equally justified in using his performances at 135 to justify that he can handle it.

    If you think a 23 year old fighting a top 5 pound 4 pounder is 'powderpuff' then you need to take your head for a shit. Seriously.

    If you don't think Marquez is a step up from competition then i really don't know what to say.

    Tell you what, show me another 23 year old current fighter with a better resume...
    Yeah he stopped Casamayor and Diaz but at 135 and he was going life and death with them, so you think he's going to do really well at 140?

    Yeah he's fighting a top 5 p4p guy but at what weight? Why it's above his comfort zone where he looked like crap! Khan and Roach are hoping that JMM is another shot blownup featherweight like Barrera. Of course something like this will make Khan look good with the ignorant masses that say, "Why look at Khan he easily beats a guy that went life and death with Pacquiao and is ranked 5th p4p currently, this guy is awesome! He's about to be a legend! First he beats 1 legend in Barerra and now JMM. What a fighter!"

    And seriously stop using the "He's only 23 excuse."

    You Khan fanboys only have 2 excuses when someone calls him out to be a fraud. "He's only 23" and sadly the race card if anyone dares criticize him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
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    I'm using all time greats as an measuring stick because you guys that are Khan supporters keep on using this mantra, "He's only 23" as if that's an excuse to fight powderpuffs and past their prime fighters. You guys are thinking that 23 is not good enough to step up in competition, but it's been done before in boxing, hence why I'm using those legends as examples. Salita? Kotelnik? A shot 1 eye Barrera? But hey he's only 23. Next year when he fights mostly bums and has beens again it's hey he's only 24, then only 25, then only 26, etc.

    And yeah I seriously think Marquez can't handle 140. Why? Common sense man. If he was struggling at 135 to beat Casamayor and Diaz then it's common sense he's going to struggle at 140, especially at being 37 this year with a shitload of fights and wear and tear.

    @Fenster
    Yeah he's ranked 5th by the ring p4p but does this mean he takes Tim Bradley or even the Con boy who's not ranked at all in the top p4p lists? SO what's your point of bringing up the p4p list? ANd Hatton is a shot fighter, JMM may be on the decline but not shot yet, he has a chance there but against Bradley or Con boy? The chances are slim for the man.
    Why's it common sense? He stopped both Diaz and Casamayor in his only 2 fights at that weight. If you're going to use his performance against Mayweather at 147 to say he cannot handle it, then i am equally justified in using his performances at 135 to justify that he can handle it.

    If you think a 23 year old fighting a top 5 pound 4 pounder is 'powderpuff' then you need to take your head for a shit. Seriously.

    If you don't think Marquez is a step up from competition then i really don't know what to say.

    Tell you what, show me another 23 year old current fighter with a better resume...
    Yeah he stopped Casamayor and Diaz but at 135 and he was going life and death with them, so you think he's going to do really well at 140?

    Yeah he's fighting a top 5 p4p guy but at what weight? Why it's above his comfort zone where he looked like crap! Khan and Roach are hoping that JMM is another shot blownup featherweight like Barrera. Of course something like this will make Khan look good with the ignorant masses that say, "Why look at Khan he easily beats a guy that went life and death with Pacquiao and is ranked 5th p4p currently, this guy is awesome! He's about to be a legend! First he beats 1 legend in Barerra and now JMM. What a fighter!"

    And seriously stop using the "He's only 23 excuse."

    You Khan fanboys only have 2 excuses when someone calls him out to be a fraud. "He's only 23" and sadly the race card if anyone dares criticize him.

    Great thread so far, some valid points either side.

    Bulldog answer me this please; what qualifies Khan, or any other boxer, a fraud as you so kindly put it ? he's only 23 ( not an excuse just fact ) and not really had a chance to be proved a fraud surely
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    I'm with Ono on this one 100%, everyones unfounded hatred towards Khan is clouding their view.

    Marquez is a bigger name, a bigger draw and twice the fighter Maidana is yet Khan is a fraud for fighting him intstead? FFS give the kid his dues? He's 23 and fighting a top 5 PFP future HoF'er
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    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
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    I'm using all time greats as an measuring stick because you guys that are Khan supporters keep on using this mantra, "He's only 23" as if that's an excuse to fight powderpuffs and past their prime fighters. You guys are thinking that 23 is not good enough to step up in competition, but it's been done before in boxing, hence why I'm using those legends as examples. Salita? Kotelnik? A shot 1 eye Barrera? But hey he's only 23. Next year when he fights mostly bums and has beens again it's hey he's only 24, then only 25, then only 26, etc.

    And yeah I seriously think Marquez can't handle 140. Why? Common sense man. If he was struggling at 135 to beat Casamayor and Diaz then it's common sense he's going to struggle at 140, especially at being 37 this year with a shitload of fights and wear and tear.

    @Fenster
    Yeah he's ranked 5th by the ring p4p but does this mean he takes Tim Bradley or even the Con boy who's not ranked at all in the top p4p lists? SO what's your point of bringing up the p4p list? ANd Hatton is a shot fighter, JMM may be on the decline but not shot yet, he has a chance there but against Bradley or Con boy? The chances are slim for the man.
    Why's it common sense? He stopped both Diaz and Casamayor in his only 2 fights at that weight. If you're going to use his performance against Mayweather at 147 to say he cannot handle it, then i am equally justified in using his performances at 135 to justify that he can handle it.

    If you think a 23 year old fighting a top 5 pound 4 pounder is 'powderpuff' then you need to take your head for a shit. Seriously.

    If you don't think Marquez is a step up from competition then i really don't know what to say.

    Tell you what, show me another 23 year old current fighter with a better resume...
    Yeah he stopped Casamayor and Diaz but at 135 and he was going life and death with them, so you think he's going to do really well at 140?

    Yeah he's fighting a top 5 p4p guy but at what weight? Why it's above his comfort zone where he looked like crap! Khan and Roach are hoping that JMM is another shot blownup featherweight like Barrera. Of course something like this will make Khan look good with the ignorant masses that say, "Why look at Khan he easily beats a guy that went life and death with Pacquiao and is ranked 5th p4p currently, this guy is awesome! He's about to be a legend! First he beats 1 legend in Barerra and now JMM. What a fighter!"

    And seriously stop using the "He's only 23 excuse."

    You Khan fanboys only have 2 excuses when someone calls him out to be a fraud. "He's only 23" and sadly the race card if anyone dares criticize him.
    He's fighting him at 140 if it happens which is the weight class Khan only moved up to to get a title shot. I'm not getting why you think JMM is shot. You're jumping the gun a little. He's still ranked in the top 5 p4p so unless your world boxing knowledge outweighs that of the many boxing experts and the majority of the posters on here (believe me, it doesn't), then i think you need to stop with the Barrera comparisons. Barrera was last seen fighting in gymnasiums before the Khan fight. Marquez was last seen sharing the ring with possibly the greatest fighter of a generation.

    His age isn't an excuse. It's a fact. He's only recently turned 23 so hating on his career is a little silly when it's very debatable that there is another prospect with a better resume.

    What you're failing to realise, is that Boxing is a sport that is aimed at the ignorant masses. Mismatched ppv's, mismatched mandatory title defences. Roy Jones made a career out of it.

    Whether or not it all fits in with your "Rocky" ideology is irrelevent. Khan, along with the vast majority of all the other fighters in the world, will opt to take on the bigger named, lesser risk fight for much more money.

    I'm also not a 'Khan Fanboy' nor am i a fan boy of any particular fighter. I just don't have irrational hate for him like a few people on here.
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