Hatton splits from Lee Beard

[El Kabong]

....Fenech or if he's really hurting Rooney

[JazMerkin]

....Fenech or if he's really hurting Rooney

I agree Fenech would be a good choice. I think Rooney also isn't a bad choice, although if Floyd Sr couldn't get him to move his head, I don't see how anyone else can.

I personally think he should go with someone like Dan Birmingham, I think he could find something to work with Hatton's existing style.

[miron_lang]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

[Gandalf]

Beard is just a yes man in my eyes anyway, so I'm glad he is out. Rooney would be a fun partnership, but I have a hard time seeing that come off. Fenech was a pretty good suggestion from Lyle too.

I would love to see Billy Graham back in the fold, but that is obviously never going to happen with too much having passed in recent years. Hatton was always a pretty good boxer prior to Tsyzu, it's a shame he has resorted to hit and hold mode ever since. At 31 and currently looking like Mr Blobby, I just hope he gets through the next fight okay. It's a shame that Hatton has never looked after himself between fights. It's probably taken half a decade off of his career.

[Gandalf]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

Screw that. I can think of nothing worse than being trained by that ginger, drooling goon. Hatton going to Roach would be like Hopkins, Toney and Tyson going to him. An ageing fighter pointlessly turning to a cash hungry coach who really has nothing to offer.

Roach is a one trick pony, he is just lucky that his trick is Manny Pacquiao. Drugs probably help too.

[Nameless]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

Screw that. I can think of nothing worse than being trained by that ginger, drooling goon. Hatton going to Roach would be like Hopkins, Toney and Tyson going to him. An ageing fighter pointlessly turning to a cash hungry coach who really has nothing to offer.

Roach is a one trick pony, he is just lucky that his trick is Manny Pacquiao. Drugs probably help too.

I think it's a bit severe there. Every fighters that went on with Roach did improve significantly, except perhaps Tyson who stayed the same but Tyson being Tyson, nobody could have done anything for that. I still rate Roach as the most able coach at the moment despite his part time loud mouth (which I think is mostly to catch fire instead of his boxers but it is debatable).
Back on Topic, a good coach for Hatton would be Pat Burns or Shields I think. If he could go German, training with Uli Wegner could be excellent as one of the first thing he would learn would be to keep his hands up... which is good for a guy unable to move head.

[Bomp]

Back to Floyd Senior, at least 24/7 would then be worth watching.

[Jimmy G-Force]

Back to Floyd Senior, at least 24/7 would then be worth watching.

Floyd Snr was the biggest mistake Ray Hatton ever made. He was in it for the cool million he received and nothing more in my opinion, and many others. Floyd Snr even refused to train Ricky on the pads in prep for Manny as he said that he doesnt do 'Southpaw' pad-work.

[Gandalf]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

Screw that. I can think of nothing worse than being trained by that ginger, drooling goon. Hatton going to Roach would be like Hopkins, Toney and Tyson going to him. An ageing fighter pointlessly turning to a cash hungry coach who really has nothing to offer.

Roach is a one trick pony, he is just lucky that his trick is Manny Pacquiao. Drugs probably help too.

I think it's a bit severe there. Every fighters that went on with Roach did improve significantly, except perhaps Tyson who stayed the same but Tyson being Tyson, nobody could have done anything for that. I still rate Roach as the most able coach at the moment despite his part time loud mouth (which I think is mostly to catch fire instead of his boxers but it is debatable).
Back on Topic, a good coach for Hatton would be Pat Burns or Shields I think. If he could go German, training with Uli Wegner could be excellent as one of the first thing he would learn would be to keep his hands up... which is good for a guy unable to move head.

Part rant, part serious on my part there.

I don't think Roach had the time to have an impact with Hopkins and you can't teach an old dog like that many new tricks. Roach allowed Toney to come in progressively heavier and heavier which I thought was disgusting. He seemed to allow Tyson to cut corners in preparation too. A good trainer wouldn't be allowing fighters to get in the ring having not done the roadwork. Roach is good at what he does, but is overrated by those who see him as the messiah.

[skel1983]

What I want to know is why the hell is Guzman using Lee beard?

[miron_lang]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

Screw that. I can think of nothing worse than being trained by that ginger, drooling goon. Hatton going to Roach would be like Hopkins, Toney and Tyson going to him. An ageing fighter pointlessly turning to a cash hungry coach who really has nothing to offer.

Roach is a one trick pony, he is just lucky that his trick is Manny Pacquiao. Drugs probably help too.

Virgill Hill is a Roach product and Amir khan became a belt holder after it appears that presscott shattered his dreams.

[Hornfinger]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

Maybe hatton want's to stay clean

I think this was a smart move getting rid of beard. Although finding a new trainer, who'll train him in this country could be tricky.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

yea i agree Roach will get Hatton ready for a catchweight fight at 190 lbs against Ivan Calderon in no time

[AdamGB]

In reality the best you could do for Hatton is find somebody to remind him that:

If you don't move your head, use something that at east resembles a guard

and

If you don't use a guard... at least try and move your head.

Telling him that it's OK to get hit with a solid shot and then refrain from seeing red and throw your gameplan out of the window like a boutless Amatuer would help too, but at the moment keeping his hands up is a primary, this is just secondary.

Really what he needs is somebody to find out when his yes men team started believing their own hype too much and neglecting his training, hop in the deloraine and go for 88mph.

[Greig]

In reality the best you could do for Hatton is find somebody to remind him that:

If you don't move your head, use something that at east resembles a guard

and

If you don't use a guard... at least try and move your head.

Telling him that it's OK to get hit with a solid shot and then refrain from seeing red and throw your gameplan out of the window like a boutless Amatuer would help too, but at the moment keeping his hands up is a primary, this is just secondary.

Really what he needs is somebody to find out when his yes men team started believing their own hype too much and neglecting his training, hop in the deloraine and go for 88mph.

Yep, a time machine would be good for Hatton.

I posted immediately after the Tszyu fight that I thought Hatton would go down as an all time great 140 pounder. That's how highly I rated him. But he had no discipline between fights at all. And let's not forget, he spent his best years toiling away in relative obscurity under Warren's 'watchful eye'. Sure Warren kept him busy and kept him earning, but IMO he should have been fighting bigger names sooner.

Sadly, I think Ricky will be remembered as a decent fighter who had a couple of brilliant victories (Tszyu/Castillo) but who largely wasted the gifts they had. His boozing and partying lifestyle has seriously shortened his career and in the long run, I think he may be remembered by the public more for his defeats against great fighters, than his victories.