Hatton splits from Lee Beard

[Nameless]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

Screw that. I can think of nothing worse than being trained by that ginger, drooling goon. Hatton going to Roach would be like Hopkins, Toney and Tyson going to him. An ageing fighter pointlessly turning to a cash hungry coach who really has nothing to offer.

Roach is a one trick pony, he is just lucky that his trick is Manny Pacquiao. Drugs probably help too.

I think it's a bit severe there. Every fighters that went on with Roach did improve significantly, except perhaps Tyson who stayed the same but Tyson being Tyson, nobody could have done anything for that. I still rate Roach as the most able coach at the moment despite his part time loud mouth (which I think is mostly to catch fire instead of his boxers but it is debatable).
Back on Topic, a good coach for Hatton would be Pat Burns or Shields I think. If he could go German, training with Uli Wegner could be excellent as one of the first thing he would learn would be to keep his hands up... which is good for a guy unable to move head.

[Bomp]

Back to Floyd Senior, at least 24/7 would then be worth watching.

[Jimmy G-Force]

Back to Floyd Senior, at least 24/7 would then be worth watching.

Floyd Snr was the biggest mistake Ray Hatton ever made. He was in it for the cool million he received and nothing more in my opinion, and many others. Floyd Snr even refused to train Ricky on the pads in prep for Manny as he said that he doesnt do 'Southpaw' pad-work.

[Hornfinger]

Back to Floyd Senior, at least 24/7 would then be worth watching.

Floyd Snr was the biggest mistake Ray Hatton ever made. He was in it for the cool million he received and nothing more in my opinion, and many others. Floyd Snr even refused to train Ricky on the pads in prep for Manny as he said that he doesnt do 'Southpaw' pad-work.

There was plenty of footage on sky news and 24/7 of snr and ricky doing pad work.

[Mattyhitman]

Back to Floyd Senior, at least 24/7 would then be worth watching.

Floyd Snr was the biggest mistake Ray Hatton ever made. He was in it for the cool million he received and nothing more in my opinion, and many others. Floyd Snr even refused to train Ricky on the pads in prep for Manny as he said that he doesnt do 'Southpaw' pad-work.

There was plenty of footage on sky news and 24/7 of snr and ricky doing pad work.

Ahh but was it padwork designed to counter and land on a southpaw ?

[Jimmy G-Force]

Floyd Snr was the biggest mistake Ray Hatton ever made. He was in it for the cool million he received and nothing more in my opinion, and many others. Floyd Snr even refused to train Ricky on the pads in prep for Manny as he said that he doesnt do 'Southpaw' pad-work.

There was plenty of footage on sky news and 24/7 of snr and ricky doing pad work.

Ahh but was it padwork designed to counter and land on a southpaw ?

Exactly, no it wasnt.

[Hornfinger]

There was plenty of footage on sky news and 24/7 of snr and ricky doing pad work.

Ahh but was it padwork designed to counter and land on a southpaw ?

Exactly, no it wasnt.

But here's what I don't understand. If I was a boxer on the brink of a mega fight and my body is telling me I've got to slow down a bit, or I feel like I'm peaking too soon, I'm going to put my foot down and say something. If my trainer then persists in training me into the ground or refusing to do pad work or other training techniques vital to beating my oponant (not mention turning up for training late) than I'm going to tell him to pack his bags and fuck off. Especially if you've got Lee beard to take over anyway.

I'm just surprised Ricky didn't do something.

[HattonTheHammer]

Back to Floyd Senior, at least 24/7 would then be worth watching.

Floyd Snr was the biggest mistake Ray Hatton ever made. He was in it for the cool million he received and nothing more in my opinion, and many others. Floyd Snr even refused to train Ricky on the pads in prep for Manny as he said that he doesnt do 'Southpaw' pad-work.

Too right

while manny was in training for ricky, ricky was in training for floyd. You saw the worrying signs early on in the 24/7 series when he simply refused to let ricky go to work with genuine southpaws instead just opting to change stances every now and then.

Shame Lees gone to the states as he was one of the better british trainers. Im pretty sure any of merkins picks could get hatton into fighting shape. Hatton doesnt need someone in the camp with new thoughts and ideas he needs a workaholic type trainer who`s gonna work to ricks strengths.

[Gandalf]

Roach

He doesnt overhaul you like Sr. He just concentrates of what you have. All those interviews means nothing anyway Hatton should not take it personally and get Roach.

Screw that. I can think of nothing worse than being trained by that ginger, drooling goon. Hatton going to Roach would be like Hopkins, Toney and Tyson going to him. An ageing fighter pointlessly turning to a cash hungry coach who really has nothing to offer.

Roach is a one trick pony, he is just lucky that his trick is Manny Pacquiao. Drugs probably help too.

I think it's a bit severe there. Every fighters that went on with Roach did improve significantly, except perhaps Tyson who stayed the same but Tyson being Tyson, nobody could have done anything for that. I still rate Roach as the most able coach at the moment despite his part time loud mouth (which I think is mostly to catch fire instead of his boxers but it is debatable).
Back on Topic, a good coach for Hatton would be Pat Burns or Shields I think. If he could go German, training with Uli Wegner could be excellent as one of the first thing he would learn would be to keep his hands up... which is good for a guy unable to move head.

Part rant, part serious on my part there.

I don't think Roach had the time to have an impact with Hopkins and you can't teach an old dog like that many new tricks. Roach allowed Toney to come in progressively heavier and heavier which I thought was disgusting. He seemed to allow Tyson to cut corners in preparation too. A good trainer wouldn't be allowing fighters to get in the ring having not done the roadwork. Roach is good at what he does, but is overrated by those who see him as the messiah.

[skel1983]

What I want to know is why the hell is Guzman using Lee beard?

[Mattyhitman]

What I want to know is why the hell is Guzman using Lee beard?

One would think Guzman has only been told good things about Lee hence the reason he wants him, nothing less nothing more

[skel1983]

What I want to know is why the hell is Guzman using Lee beard?

One would think Guzman has only been told good things about Lee hence the reason he wants him, nothing less nothing more

Obviously, I didnt realise Beard was that known over there which he obviously is, I just thought It was a bit random, but I now hear he has been recommended by another fighter.