Open Scoring

[sumkalambay]

yep it's pointless

[El Kabong]

It would be nice if ONLY the crowd could see it but even if a trainer sees it then it can adversely affect the action of a fight

[InTheNeutralCorner]

It would be nice if ONLY the crowd could see it but even if a trainer sees it then it can adversely affect the action of a fight

What if it's ONLY the TV viewers who can see it? And the boxer's team will be prohibited from using any form of communication device during the fight.

[Lance Uppercut]

It would be nice if ONLY the crowd could see it but even if a trainer sees it then it can adversely affect the action of a fight

What if it's ONLY the TV viewers who can see it? And the boxer's team will be prohibited from using any form of communication device during the fight.

They actually tried this for a Muhammad Ali fight in the late 70's. ABC was showing the actual scores of the fight between rounds. Someone from Ali's team ran from the back and advised Ali that he had built an 8-0 lead after 8 rounds. Accordingly, Ali went on the bicycle for the remaining 7 rounds.

needless to say, the experiment was a disaster.

[Zilla]

I gotta play Devil's Advocate here. In every other sport don't all the teams have the right to know how many points they've scored? Saying that boxing is different sounds like an excuse to take away a boxer's right to know how well he's doing. If he gets on a bike and rides the rest of the fight, isn't that the other fighter's fault for not being a better fighter? And sure, a fighter might dial it back if he knows he's ahead, but conversely, might not the other fighter fight harder? Also, if a fighter would have thought he was ahead by several rounds but sees it's only tied up fight harder? If the fight is tied going into the later rounds, is that not impetus for both to do more than they have rather than assume they're being their opponents. To assume that boxers would only fight less if open scoring were available, well, wouldn't that be only a half-assed assumption? It seems to me, a fairer way of giving fans the exact same thing.

And we're only talking about the exceptions. Most times when a fighter assumes he's ahead he really is. You already have guys who will cruise, except with open scoring, at least they won't be deluding themselves. And many fighters who know they're ahead still try to close out the show.

Opponents to open scoring are painting with a broad brush what will only really affect a handful of fights every year.

Mayweather had to have known he was beating Marquez, but he didn't hang back. He banged away at Marquez. Pacquiao probably wouldn't have cared what the scoring cards stated; he took Cotto's head off. Where is this list of fighters everyone is so concerned about coasting?

[Drago]

maybe it would be more difficult for a home fighter to get a undeserved win?

[Zilla]

Ppl knock open scoring as if how it stands right now is perfect. We all have seen examples of home town scoring or fights with decisions as if the judges must have been watching with their eyes closed. Don't make it out as if fans booing or cheering would suddenly make judging crooked. It already is. Maybe fans should have an influence, to be the 4th judge, if you will. Sometimes they have it right. How many times have we seen a fight on TV and booed right along with the crowd after it went the other way? Really, what is the problem with open scoring? Every argument you can make against it can be countered and at least if a fighter were being cheated he would know it rather than having to wait until it's too late to do anything about it.

[ER-101]

Ppl knock open scoring as if how it stands right now is perfect. We all have seen examples of home town scoring or fights with decisions as if the judges must have been watching with their eyes closed. Don't make it out as if fans booing or cheering would suddenly make judging crooked. It already is. Maybe fans should have an influence, to be the 4th judge, if you will. Sometimes they have it right. How many times have we seen a fight on TV and booed right along with the crowd after it went the other way? Really, what is the problem with open scoring? Every argument you can make against it can be countered and at least if a fighter were being cheated he would know it rather than having to wait until it's too late to do anything about it.

I don't really put it down, I just say it affects the way a fighter acts in the ring. It would also have an affect on the way some judges score. Currently judges do their own thing and we can see over time what the tendencies of a judge are. With open scoring it puts pressure on the judge to follow the crowd and the other judges. I would think that if most felt the current system was not just enough then it would make more sense to additional judges make it 5 instead of 3.