I may have used the wrong word. It may be justifiable to request for a blood test to clean up the sport but why
now when the fighter that Floyd is facing is deemed inferior to him by a number of posters in this forum. Manny is the underdog. I feel that it's like Lebron James demanding blood test from Vince Carter before they play ball. It may be valid to request for the blood test if there is suspicion that the opponent is using but if the opponent is not seen as someone exceptional, then where did the suspicion come from? And do you think it was to bring a greater level of fairness to the competition? But there was no level of fairness when he fought Marquez, was there?
I am not condoning Manny's response to the demand. He could have responded better. I am just posting a question with regards to the demand that started the disagreement. The motive for Floyd's demand is suspicious. The refusal to accede to the demand also placed Manny under suspicion.
I find your response to be very honest, and your musings to be very thoughtful and inquisitive. This suggest that you are indeed exploring avenues of probabilities rather than devilizing one fighter and angelizing another. And please forgive the liberty I take with the English language, I hold to the tenet that once you get my meaning the verbalizing of some nouns is excusable.
However, I take issue with your comment that the motive for Floyd's demand is suspicious. What does FLoyd stand to gain from this demand? When the motive of someone's actions come under suspicion, it is generally presumed that they stand to gain something from that action. If not, motive becomes redundant. That is why it is no longer an essential element in the judicial presentation of cases before the court, and is mostly an investigative query. So again, what does Floyd stand to gain by demanding that both he and his opponent be subjected to a regimen of random drug testing? It would seem to me, that you are just flinging out a preponderance of probabilities in pursuit of something that will stick. And that tends to vitiate the good sense that inundate the remainder of your comment.
The same people who are claiming that Mosely is inferior to Floyd, a few pages and threads away were claiming that Floyd was afraid of him. That kind of convenient shifting certainly is not acceptable as a yardstick in terms of Shane Mosley's current ability. He just destroyed someone who many of these pundits were accusing Floyd of ducking quite recently. I can't remember anyone making that observation when Bernard Hopkins signed to fight Kelly Pavlik.
Marquez has been consistent in his abilities throughout his career. The correct analogy in terms of PBF consistency has to be Shane Mosely, and he has demanded, and Shane has acceded to, a regimen of random drug testing throughout their preparation for the fight. Look, I have no problem with criticism of PBF or the fact that many believe that Mosely will beat him. But like I said, I get cognitive dissonant with a conversational premise that argues against increased scrutiny of substances fighters are putting into their bodies. In a sport where we have seen many fighters dying from blows they received in the ring, one would have expected universal support for what Mayweather initiated. That it did not, for me, is further evidence that in boxing, like so many other areas of interaction in the US, wrong and right has more to do with the personalities involved, than with the situational issue under discussion.
They don't like Floyd. They do not like his braggadocio personality. Many of them have been anticipating the enjoyment of seeing him being beaten to a pulp and silenced for more than a decade. Unfortunately for them, none of the hopefuls have been up to the task. Manny, displaying a phenomenal increase in power and ability over the past couple of years seem like the best chance for realizing a seemingly unreachable dream. How dare Floyd Mayweather Junior rob them of this expectant thrill by introducing a condition that would unequivocally level the playing field, and thus risk denying them something for which they have been yearning for decades? How else can one explain the flights of irrational and unreasonable fancies being introduced into the discussion? If you ask me, it is the motives behind these that should have aroused your suspicions.
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Re: Resumes - Mayweather vs Pacquiao
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
I say you pose a great question. Many of the people on this forum thinks that Pacquiao is an average fighter that got lucky beating shot or over the hill fighters. So if he's deem so inferior in boxing and got fighters that were shot, why do they want him to take a blood test anyway if he's not that good or great? Especially against an undefeated boxer like Floyd that many here claims is the Michael Jordan, Wayne Gretzky, Pele, Johnny Unitas, of this sport?
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