JMM's trainer tells Marquez to avoid Khan!?!?

[p4pking]

marquez ducking khan? what a joke! as far as i know marquez has NEVER ducked anybody, much less an overrated, media-hype job in khan. besides, khan isn't a big name yet so this fight probably wouldn't sell enough for someone of marquez' status.

if khan is so good why won't he match his talent against fighters who are as naturally as big as he or in their prime! first of all, marquez is noticiably on the decline as any 36 fighter would be who has been thru several wars with even better fighters than khan.

khan should have the balls to fight fighters like maidana, ortiz, devon alexander, lamont peterson, kendall holt etc...instead of roach feeding his fighters over the hill fighters as usual, he should see just how good a trainer he is and match his young fighters with other young fighters. if he's that good a trainer, his fighters shouldn't have a problem right?

In theory your right, but I think Roach has become just as much a manager/matchmaker for his top guys these days. Like it or not, he does carry some weight in the bus and wants his fighters to do well for themselves financially first and foremost. Cant really blame him for it.

[milmascaras1]

p4p,

you're right and he should be looking out for his fighters well being but right now he's only a trainer. i just can't stand his cherrypicking his fghters' opponents. i think he does it to make his training skills look better than what they are. not to mention the guy is a classic, annoying motor-mouth who annoys and rubs fans the wrong way.

[p4pking]

p4p,

you're right and he should be looking out for his fighters well being but right now he's only a trainer. i just can't stand his cherrypicking his fghters' opponents. i think he does it to make his training skills look better than what they are. not to mention the guy is a classic, annoying motor-mouth who annoys and rubs fans the wrong way.

Who's to say what his role is though? Clearly he has a lot of control over his fighters, and he is entitled to make career choices for his top guys. People rag on him for the reasons you state, but at the end of the day if he is making his fighters and himself millions of dollars and winning, I'm sure he isn't losing sleep over it. Besides that, he is an excellent trainer and people who say otherwise never substantiate it with anything whatsoever. It's only on forums and the like, amongst people who follow the sport very closely that you will actually hear any criticism of the guy, and even then it's just bickering about things he might say, basically who gives a rats. Freddie Roach has actually made a name for himself amongst casual fans, I have friends who know him or read things about him, he has also established a presence amongst MMA circles, which says a lot considering he is just a boxing trainer. I like the guy, he's obviously not stupid.

[Dark Lord Al]

Its the usual build up bullshit.

[Kirkland Laing]

According to the latest the fight is off. Marquez is ducking Khan!

[eagle]

This is not having a go at either fighter, but who is really the bigger draw in the USA. Surely Marquez would sell more PPV's in the USA than Khan? Or am i wrong? Seems like all the fight factors are in khans favor even tho he is the up and comer. I thought all along JMM should have challenged Amir to fight at 135 just to see how keen he really was for the fight. I think JMM is right in a way, he'd be better off fighting at his more natural weight of 130-135 to end his career.

[ono]

I really wish people would stop going on about how Marquez struggled at 135. He ko'd two of the top guys who had previously never been stopped. The reason he didn't look as good is because he chose to go life and death with them, much like he did in the first round against Pacquiao, only the 3 knockdowns made him change his tactic.

So to say he'd be ineffective at 140 is a little bit silly...especially against somebody with supposedly the weakest chin in Boxing.

I also wish people would stop going on about how we need to see him in with a puncher. We've already seen it, and he go ko'd. Him beating another puncher doesn't prove anything really. His chin is never going to improve so unless he develops unbelievable defensive skills (which i doubt), he will always have a chance of being Ko'd by anyone....not just a puncher. So if he was to beat Maidana he'd go to 1-1 against punchers. It's hardly going to change people's mind about his chin. There will always be half a chance that he'll get ko'd as it will always be a question of 'if' the opponent connects on Khan's chin.

Even ignoring all that, surely it's more dangerous for him to fight a lighter hitting puncher who has the skills to land much more frequently...like Marquez? I mean it's not as though Marquez is feather-fisted.

I don't mind people saying they want Khan to fight Maidana, because he is a legitimate contender and he deserves a shot, but the logic in chosing him over Marquez is flawed.

Incidentally, it's interesting to see how many people are saying they don't blame Marquez for not wanting to fight Khan as the risk/reward factor isn't in Marquez's favour, yet when the same scenario applies for Khan fighting Maidana, Khan is called a bottle-job.

[miron_lang]

Another bad decision on JMM's part IMO

Legacy - Khan presents a title that would make JMM a 4 Division champion. He would be the 1st Mexican to do it.

Money - Besides Hatton Khan presents the most money at 140.

[Themantonio]

I'm not surprised! Every1 wanks on bout how good a trainer he is, and I agree he is, but he's been critised on more than one occasion bout his management of JMM's career, eg. when he sent JMM to Indonesia to take on Chris John...

[Nameless]

I'm not surprised! Every1 wanks on bout how good a trainer he is, and I agree he is, but he's been critised on more than one occasion bout his management of JMM's career, eg. when he sent JMM to Indonesia to take on Chris John...

The guy did build something like 16 world champions. Like anybody, he might have made mistakes at some point but one thing you can't do: Question Nacho's capacities as a trainer. I remember even Bert Sugar once saying how he was "the hell of a professor".

[Themantonio]

I'm not surprised! Every1 wanks on bout how good a trainer he is, and I agree he is, but he's been critised on more than one occasion bout his management of JMM's career, eg. when he sent JMM to Indonesia to take on Chris John...

The guy did build something like 16 world champions. Like anybody, he might have made mistakes at some point but one thing you can't do: Question Nacho's capacities as a trainer. I remember even Bert Sugar once saying how he was "the hell of a professor".

Yeh tru... As I said, I do beleive he is a great trainer, so we're in agreeance there (I hope haha), I fink I was more commenting on his fighter's career management skills and how they MAY lack at times...

[ICB]

I hope JMM doesn't fight Amir Khan, i couldn't handle another one of my favorites losing to Amir Khan. It seems to be all against JMM. Height, Reach, Age, Speed, Size, Weight.

I'd rather JMM just stay at his own weightclass, and Amir Khan beat fighters in his own weightclass. Like Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander, Marcos Rene Maidana.