After the Mayweather/Pac fallout who is really excited about Pac/Clottey?

[CFH]

I'm not excited about it at all. I don't know if it's just backlash from the Pacquiao - Mayweather negotiations or what, but I'm just not anticipating this fight. Clottey is a legitimate welter-weight contender and he's a very credible opponent for Pacquiao, especially coming off the string of fights he's had, but to me the only question in this fight is whether or not Pacquiao is able to stop Clottey.

I must admit also that when I think about Pacquiao's accomplishments now they do feel somewhat tainted because of his refusal to undergo the drug-testing, so that certainly plays a role in my disinterest.

[Pugilistic]

I would much rather see a Pacquiao - Mayweather fight to be honest.

I'm happy to see Clottey get another shot at a big time fighter though, Clottey proved he could hang with the top guys against Cotto.

I think Clottey causes Pacquiao alot of trouble early with his tight guard and underated countering ability. I see Pacquiao upping the pace after 4 rounds and Clottey won't be able to match Pacquiao with workrate. If Clottey is able to maintain a good workrate though, he will be a seriously tough fight for Pac.

Pacquiao by unimpressive but quite clear decision.

[Total-Boxing]

Obviously the breakdown of the May/Pac fight is disappointing, but thats not to say it won't take place in future.

As a replacement Manny couldn't have chose a more tougher fighter. Clottey is huge and a solid fighter, who's never been stopped.

He could cause Manny problems with his size, but ultimately it is intriuing to see how Manny can deal with, and even stop him!

I'd have to go for a Manny UD, but it is not an easy fight for him at all!

[killersheep]

Obviously the breakdown of the May/Pac fight is disappointing, but thats not to say it won't take place in future.

As a replacement Manny couldn't have chose a more tougher fighter. Clottey is huge and a solid fighter, who's never been stopped.

He could cause Manny problems with his size, but ultimately it is intriuing to see how Manny can deal with, and even stop him!

I'd have to go for a Manny UD, but it is not an easy fight for him at all!

Clottey is big and durable yes, but his output is abysmal, and he simply plods forward with a high guard...............especially as fights go on. Pac wins this quite easily on sheer volume. I'm with CFH on this the only real question here is if Manny can stop him or not.

I mean outside of a lucky shot, can anyone really give me a scenario where Clottey can win this?

The only real question here is if Clottey makes weight or not. He has missed the 147 mark 11 times already in his career.

[blegit]

Obviously the breakdown of the May/Pac fight is disappointing, but thats not to say it won't take place in future.

As a replacement Manny couldn't have chose a more tougher fighter. Clottey is huge and a solid fighter, who's never been stopped.

He could cause Manny problems with his size, but ultimately it is intriuing to see how Manny can deal with, and even stop him!

I'd have to go for a Manny UD, but it is not an easy fight for him at all!

Clottey is big and durable yes, but his output is abysmal, and he simply plods forward with a high guard...............especially as fights go on. Pac wins this quite easily on sheer volume. I'm with CFH on this the only real question here is if Manny can stop him or not.

I mean outside of a lucky shot, can anyone really give me a scenario where Clottey can win this?

The only real question here is if Clottey makes weight or not. He has missed the 147 mark 11 times already in his career.

I didn't know Clottey missed 147 that much! He is too big for the weight then. But knowing that why isn't Clottey's dollar/lb. stipulation against Pac ridiculous like they pulled on PBF? I'm starting to wonder how much did Pac really want that fight. PBF stuck to his guns against Mosley, a known PED cheat, why didn't Pac stick to his against Clottey who obviously comes in over 147 way too much? Anyway, I am one of the few who is actually excited for the Pac/Clottey fight. I am not big on Clottey but I do like to watch Pac fight and the more I think about this match up I lean towards a Pac stoppage. Clottey will be a punching bag waiting for his turn to punch. But I think Clottey or someone in his camp has to know that he must impose his size and be more aggressive and not hold back like he typically does. So I guess I am excited in hopes that Clottey sees what everybody else does and makes this fight interesting. When he had his aggressive moments against Cotto, 2 or 3 times, he looked good and effective. So I'm hoping he has learned his lesson in letting the Cotto fight slip. Along with the Margarito fight, not stopping Corrales, and barely eking out a victory against a badly cut Judah. Clottey has to learn to be aggressive at some point doesn't he? Doesn't he?

[InTheNeutralCorner]

Obviously the breakdown of the May/Pac fight is disappointing, but thats not to say it won't take place in future.

As a replacement Manny couldn't have chose a more tougher fighter. Clottey is huge and a solid fighter, who's never been stopped.

He could cause Manny problems with his size, but ultimately it is intriuing to see how Manny can deal with, and even stop him!

I'd have to go for a Manny UD, but it is not an easy fight for him at all!

Clottey is big and durable yes, but his output is abysmal, and he simply plods forward with a high guard...............especially as fights go on. Pac wins this quite easily on sheer volume. I'm with CFH on this the only real question here is if Manny can stop him or not.

I mean outside of a lucky shot, can anyone really give me a scenario where Clottey can win this?

The only real question here is if Clottey makes weight or not. He has missed the 147 mark 11 times already in his career.

I didn't know Clottey missed 147 that much! He is too big for the weight then. But knowing that why isn't Clottey's dollar/lb. stipulation against Pac ridiculous like they pulled on PBF? I'm starting to wonder how much did Pac really want that fight. PBF stuck to his guns against Mosley, a known PED cheat, why didn't Pac stick to his against Clottey who obviously comes in over 147 way too much? Anyway, I am one of the few who is actually excited for the Pac/Clottey fight. I am not big on Clottey but I do like to watch Pac fight and the more I think about this match up I lean towards a Pac stoppage. Clottey will be a punching bag waiting for his turn to punch. But I think Clottey or someone in his camp has to know that he must impose his size and be more aggressive and not hold back like he typically does. So I guess I am excited in hopes that Clottey sees what everybody else does and makes this fight interesting. When he had his aggressive moments against Cotto, 2 or 3 times, he looked good and effective. So I'm hoping he has learned his lesson in letting the Cotto fight slip. Along with the Margarito fight, not stopping Corrales, and barely eking out a victory against a badly cut Judah. Clottey has to learn to be aggressive at some point doesn't he? Doesn't he?

Yes , you are right, Clottey did miss the 147 mark 11 times in his career. But to put this in perspective, Here is the list of those 11 matches:

04/03/08 - Clottey 152 -------- Jose Luis Cruz 150 3/4
08/09/07 --------- 150 -------- Felix Flores 150
12/03/05 --------- 154 -------- Marcos Primera 154
10/21/05 --------- 149 -------- Marlon Thomas 149
02/18/05 --------- 149 -------- Steve Martinez 147 1/2
06/04/04 --------- 148 1/2 ---- Christian Lloyd Joseph 150
11/21/03 --------- 150 3/4 ---- Jeffrey Hill 150 1/2
12/06/02 --------- 154 -------- Ayitey Powers ?
10/19/99 --------- 148 -------- Victor Baranov 144
05/23/98 --------- 148 -------- Dennis Berry 148
07/12/97 --------- 149 -------- Cameron Raeside 144

So, it seems that he is within the weight division that he was fighting at except the one in '97 & '99 (unless they were using a different weight division in those two bouts).

[generalbulldog]

Obviously the breakdown of the May/Pac fight is disappointing, but thats not to say it won't take place in future.

As a replacement Manny couldn't have chose a more tougher fighter. Clottey is huge and a solid fighter, who's never been stopped.

He could cause Manny problems with his size, but ultimately it is intriuing to see how Manny can deal with, and even stop him!

I'd have to go for a Manny UD, but it is not an easy fight for him at all!

Clottey is big and durable yes, but his output is abysmal, and he simply plods forward with a high guard...............especially as fights go on. Pac wins this quite easily on sheer volume. I'm with CFH on this the only real question here is if Manny can stop him or not.

I mean outside of a lucky shot, can anyone really give me a scenario where Clottey can win this?

The only real question here is if Clottey makes weight or not. He has missed the 147 mark 11 times already in his career.

This fight would have been great a year back after Pac's victory over Oscar to see if he could fight a prime legitimate welter, but now that everyone sees Pac as a genuine welter?

I usually buy only 1 ppv a year, so it's Mayweather vs Balco Shane.