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    I doubt Tyson would have done much in the 1970's....maybe the early 60's vs Liston and Co. but Foreman would have wrecked him, Ali would have toyed with him, and I think Tyson-Frazier is a toss up just because Mike is an early fighter and Joe poured it on late so it all depends on when someone got caught.

    RON LYLE would have done well in a different era, tough fella, big punch, bad stamina though

    EARNIE SHAVERS at 6'1 205 and hitting the way he did, I think the 1930's-1960's would have been PRIME time for him

    Ray Mercer, had he been around when Tyson was in his prime he would have given him a run and probably beaten Mike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I doubt Tyson would have done much in the 1970's....maybe the early 60's vs Liston and Co. but Foreman would have wrecked him, Ali would have toyed with him, and I think Tyson-Frazier is a toss up just because Mike is an early fighter and Joe poured it on late so it all depends on when someone got caught.

    RON LYLE would have done well in a different era, tough fella, big punch, bad stamina though

    EARNIE SHAVERS at 6'1 205 and hitting the way he did, I think the 1930's-1960's would have been PRIME time for him

    Ray Mercer, had he been around when Tyson was in his prime he would have given him a run and probably beaten Mike.
    oh i agree he wouldn't of dominated and would have probably lost to Ali and Foreman, but he would have fared well with pretty much all of the rest, i mean the fact that you even said Frazier/Tyson would be a toss up is enough to be able to say Tyson would have been able to hold his own against the best

    IMO Holyfield is another example, he's already considered one of, if not the best Cruiserweights of all time, he would have destroyed pretty much any of the modern (2000-2010) Cruisers easily

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    I think Terrell, Young, Lyle, and Shavers would have been big tests for Tyson....I certainly would have liked to see him challeneged more in his "Prime".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I think Terrell, Young, Lyle, and Shavers would have been big tests for Tyson....I certainly would have liked to see him challeneged more in his "Prime".
    i agree, i think a fight with Lyle would have been similar to the Ruddock fight, Lyle would have gone down but would have gotten right up and given Tyson hell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    I doubt Tyson would have done much in the 1970's....maybe the early 60's vs Liston and Co. but Foreman would have wrecked him, Ali would have toyed with him, and I think Tyson-Frazier is a toss up just because Mike is an early fighter and Joe poured it on late so it all depends on when someone got caught.

    RON LYLE would have done well in a different era, tough fella, big punch, bad stamina though

    EARNIE SHAVERS at 6'1 205 and hitting the way he did, I think the 1930's-1960's would have been PRIME time for him

    Ray Mercer, had he been around when Tyson was in his prime he would have given him a run and probably beaten Mike.
    Not sure about Mercer.He really hit his stride at best in with Morrison but his peak was at best eratic.He was coming on while Tyson was showing slippage and I flash back to a poor mans Tyson-esq clone in Bert Cooper....a quality cooper taking Mercer to hell and back over 12 rounds and having his face misshapen in a war.Mercers jab was pretty underrated when it was on but he soaked up to much leather and I dont think he cracked hard enough to hang with Tysons speed/power.Helluva fight though......would of loved a Mercer/Moorer fight back then also.Always struck me as a quality matchup that got away.

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    Mercer was streaky, one fight he could give Lennox Lewis or Evander Holyfield all he could handle or just demolish Tommy Morrison and then another fight he loses to an ancient Larry Holmes.....his career wasn't a smooth one it had lots of peaks and valleys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boxer dude View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jamiebhoy View Post
    Which of your favourite boxers where around when their division was just stacked with people they couldn't beat to be an ATG but in a different era could have been truly huge.

    First off I go for Tommy Hearns, despite what he achieved he still was in the shadow of Leonard and Hagler and didn't take on the best Duran so for me despite achieving great things he could have been up ther with some more household names.
    actually hearns did take on Duran, he knocked him out cold like in the third round
    that was Duran past his best, i'm pretty sure jamiebhoy means the same Duran that beat Leonard at welterweight, not the blown up 154 version

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    For Riddick Bowe, Holyfield was the wrong man at the wrong time because he would have dominated but for him. Lewis was with a crap trainer and Tyson in jail so Bowe would have had a longer run as champ.
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    my take is that if roberto duran didn't exist when esteban dejesus was fighting, dejesus could have been a very dominant world champion. this guy had everything. he was just unlucky to have been born in duran's era!

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    Wrong men in the wrong era would be anyone who had to face Ali, Liston, Frazier and Foreman.
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