Boxing Against a Random Thrower (More Detailed Question Inside)

[WayneFlint]

I've never understood why muay thai, kickboxing and bjj are considered more "street" than boxing. I get into alot of "street" fights and the last thing I'd want to do is be on one leg even for a split second. What use is floorwork when your fighting more than one person? Why would you want to get close enough to use an elbow when people who start fights are almost always heavier and stronger than you?

Jst revisiting this thread for the first time in a long while...
Since I've done a lot of BJJ and if I were to select one discipline to protect myself with BJJ would be it. Boxing is lethal, but if I were jumped it'd be BJJ I'd use to get out of the situation. Using boxing would just get you in trouble!

I can agree, i work doors on a weekend and most of the fights i see are more than one person vs one, its rare that 2 people have an altercation and no one else jumps in, i think the alcohol makes everybody a bit more emotional so even lads that wouldnt normaly fight end up fighting to help their friends and in such situations taking things to the ground would probably be to your demise, getting close to a strong person doesnt bother me really because the thai clinch is designed to control the head and ive yet to meet any strong guy who is still strong when youre controling his balance, often if i have the opertunity to grab someone from behind i will lift their chin with my right hand pull their head back onto my right shoulder and tie up their left arm with my left arm, once youve got them on your right shoulder you can walk them out of the bar backwards, the reall drunk ones dont even need to tie up their left hand u can tuck your shirt in on the way out instead, but anyway my theory is practice every area because every fight is a different situation and you never know what situation you will find your having to defend yourself, over christmas i had an idiot rugby player on my street getting out of his car and calling me out over my driving and the floor was covered in ice in such a case bjj would be the winner, dirty fighters,ive had lads come into a place im working and hit a lad im working with over the head with a policemans cosh, after that i found myself figuring out a few things with a bar stool lol.

[Aussie_Egg]

I have just returned from 3 months in asia and while i was in thailand i attended a few muay thai fight nights, i have seen quiet a few muay thai fights here in aus too as my inlaws brother is a very talented muay thai fighter.
But watching the thai's go about there business in the ring is an awesome sight to see, they are so confident, relaxed and down right brutal once in the ring they are on a total differant level to 95% of western muay thai fighters.

So i wouldnt judge the advantages/disadvantages of muay thai by watching western fights.

[jahmez]

The ol' 1-2 always works for me in street fights. Devastating against "tough" guys throwing slow motion wild right slaps.

[WayneFlint]

definently straight punches are the only way to hit in a street fight.

[jahmez]

definently straight punches are the only way to hit in a street fight.

I'll only throw a hook really tight if I find myself inside and even then I'll try to throw or paw a jab first.

[WayneFlint]

I have just returned from 3 months in asia and while i was in thailand i attended a few muay thai fight nights, i have seen quiet a few muay thai fights here in aus too as my inlaws brother is a very talented muay thai fighter.
But watching the thai's go about there business in the ring is an awesome sight to see, they are so confident, relaxed and down right brutal once in the ring they are on a total differant level to 95% of western muay thai fighters.

So i wouldnt judge the advantages/disadvantages of muay thai by watching western fights.

I can remember seeing a video a few years back of 2 young thai lads looked only about 8 or so having a gym war, with an obveouse dislike for eachother as they didnt think twice about sticking a head but in here or there, youve gotta admire the mind set and disciplin.