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Quote Originally Posted by Preme

Tsyu was arguably P4P #1 when he was about to fight hatton to, but you don't see hatton in the top 3 do you?
laughable. Tsyu was clearly on his way down, was no one's p4p #1, and hadn't fought in a year when he fought hatton. He's also THE ONLY good fighter Hatton's ever fought. Contrast that with Taylor, who fought THREE fights IN A ROW against not just "arguably", but pretty universally recognized top 3 p4p fighters. I don't think Taylor won all of those fights, but they were all very close, which puts him in the same league as Winky and Bernard. They're also his only close fights--whereas Hatton's most recent close fight/loss was against a virtual unknown who was on no one's top 20 p4p. The analogy doesn't work.

Quote Originally Posted by Preme
and hopkins, winky and taylor in there above calzaghe? what a joke
Not a joke. Calzaghe's never beaten a top 10 p4p fighter--he has a great record but has never proven himself against the best. Hopkins, Winky and Taylor all have. (As have Pacman and Barrera, who should be included above Calzaghe.)

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hopkins wudn't live with calzaghes pace power and skills, i dont think he wuda beaten him prime for prime either,
Now this is a joke. I wouldn't be surprised if Hopkins KO'd Calzaghe today, let alone prime for prime.
Totally agree. B-hop would tear Calzaghe up. Joe been gettn way too much hype from his win over Lacy, it's getting ridiculous.