Has Manny Paquiao's reputation taken a serious hit as a result of recent goings on?

[Dizaster]

What's been going on with this Pacman situation is the same damn thing that happens when some batshit insane preacher starts shooting his mouth off about how Hurricane Katrina was sent by god to destroy the city of New Orleans because he hates riverboat gambling. All this has done for Manny (and Floyd) is pull his supporters closer to him and push his detractors farther away. So in short, the people who love him now love him more...and the people who hate him...well you get it. It all evens out. No harm done long term.

I have to beg to differ there.. As I said above, I was a giant Manny fan, but this crap didn't bring me any closer to him, or make me dislike Floyd any more.. It's just two guys with their heads so far up their asses that we as paying boxing fans miss out on something grand.. You don't see this sh!t from young up and coming hungry boxers.. You see it from rich diva's who can take or leave possibly the biggest paying fight in history... How 'bout giving back to the fans who have supported them from the bottom to the top...

[KKisser]

What's been going on with this Pacman situation is the same damn thing that happens when some batshit insane preacher starts shooting his mouth off about how Hurricane Katrina was sent by god to destroy the city of New Orleans because he hates riverboat gambling. All this has done for Manny (and Floyd) is pull his supporters closer to him and push his detractors farther away. So in short, the people who love him now love him more...and the people who hate him...well you get it. It all evens out. No harm done long term.

I have to beg to differ there.. As I said above, I was a giant Manny fan, but this crap didn't bring me any closer to him, or make me dislike Floyd any more.. It's just two guys with their heads so far up their asses that we as paying boxing fans miss out on something grand.. You don't see this sh!t from young up and coming hungry boxers.. You see it from rich diva's who can take or leave possibly the biggest paying fight in history... How 'bout giving back to the fans who have supported them from the bottom to the top...

what happened didn't endear pacquiao to me too. imo he should've just accepted the 14-day window and throw the ball back in mayweather's court, but he acted like a diva the same as floyd who should have accepted the 24 days (14 days and 24 days, what's the difference?), so many are pissed that the fight didn't materialize. totally agree about giving back to the fans which should be the case. long time ago pacquiao would have accepted any conditions for even a fraction of what he would've gotten in this fight, so i guess his status has somewhat gone to his head. members of pac's team really made a mess of the whole thing with different statements and reasons that came out. for the record, pac never said he's afraid of needles. he just doesn't like blood taken from him too close to the fight because he feels it weakens him. yes, pac's reputation has taken some hit but nothing really serious unless something comes out that would prove he's really into peds. and, 15rounder's statement about pac's supporters and detractors is only true of nuthuggers and haters.

[Gandalf]

What's been going on with this Pacman situation is the same damn thing that happens when some batshit insane preacher starts shooting his mouth off about how Hurricane Katrina was sent by god to destroy the city of New Orleans because he hates riverboat gambling. All this has done for Manny (and Floyd) is pull his supporters closer to him and push his detractors farther away. So in short, the people who love him now love him more...and the people who hate him...well you get it. It all evens out. No harm done long term.

I have to beg to differ there.. As I said above, I was a giant Manny fan, but this crap didn't bring me any closer to him, or make me dislike Floyd any more.. It's just two guys with their heads so far up their asses that we as paying boxing fans miss out on something grand.. You don't see this sh!t from young up and coming hungry boxers.. You see it from rich diva's who can take or leave possibly the biggest paying fight in history... How 'bout giving back to the fans who have supported them from the bottom to the top...

what happened didn't endear pacquiao to me. imo he should've just accepted the 14-day window and throw the ball back in mayweather's court, but he acted like a diva the same as floyd who should have accepted the 24 days (14 days and 24 days, what's the difference?), so many are pissed that the fight didn't materialize. totally agree about giving back to the fans which should be the case. long time ago pacquiao would have accepted any conditions for even a fraction of what he would've gotten in this fight, so i guess his status has somewhat gone to his head. members of pac's team really made a mess of the whole thing with different statements and reasons that came out. for the record, pac never said he's afraid of needles. he just doesn't like blood taken from him too close to the fight because he feels it weakens him. yes, pac's reputation has taken some hit but nothing really serious unless something comes out that would prove he's really into peds. and, 15rounder's statement about pac's supporters and detractors is only true of nuthuggers and haters.

I disagree, I think his rep has taken a horrible hit and it won't come back. Unless he can prove himself a decent kind of guy then he has screwed his entire career. We can all say it will just go away, but I am not going away and I will speak exactly what I feel as will others too. It's easy to say "Ooh the judges say he beat Marquez in the second fight" as well. Sorry, it's just not reality. I like the fact that people on this forum can actually think critically and I like the fact that Manny is being given no easy pass.

Look at the votes, Manny's rep has taken a severe hit and I will do the same poll several years later and let the facts speak for themselves. Opinions won't change, unless Manny fights Floyd and allows random testing.

[InTheNeutralCorner]

I have to beg to differ there.. As I said above, I was a giant Manny fan, but this crap didn't bring me any closer to him, or make me dislike Floyd any more.. It's just two guys with their heads so far up their asses that we as paying boxing fans miss out on something grand.. You don't see this sh!t from young up and coming hungry boxers.. You see it from rich diva's who can take or leave possibly the biggest paying fight in history... How 'bout giving back to the fans who have supported them from the bottom to the top...

what happened didn't endear pacquiao to me. imo he should've just accepted the 14-day window and throw the ball back in mayweather's court, but he acted like a diva the same as floyd who should have accepted the 24 days (14 days and 24 days, what's the difference?), so many are pissed that the fight didn't materialize. totally agree about giving back to the fans which should be the case. long time ago pacquiao would have accepted any conditions for even a fraction of what he would've gotten in this fight, so i guess his status has somewhat gone to his head. members of pac's team really made a mess of the whole thing with different statements and reasons that came out. for the record, pac never said he's afraid of needles. he just doesn't like blood taken from him too close to the fight because he feels it weakens him. yes, pac's reputation has taken some hit but nothing really serious unless something comes out that would prove he's really into peds. and, 15rounder's statement about pac's supporters and detractors is only true of nuthuggers and haters.

I disagree, I think his rep has taken a horrible hit and it won't come back. Unless he can prove himself a decent kind of guy then he has screwed his entire career. We can all say it will just go away, but I am not going away and I will speak exactly what I feel as will others too. It's easy to say "Ooh the judges say he beat Marquez in the second fight" as well. Sorry, it's just not reality. I like the fact that people on this forum can actually think critically and I like the fact that Manny is being given no easy pass.

Look at the votes, Manny's rep has taken a severe hit and I will do the same poll several years later and let the facts speak for themselves. Opinions won't change, unless Manny fights Floyd and allows random testing.

Maybe you're right, maybe not. The success (or failure) of the Pacquiao-Clottey fight will give as an idea on how much damage was done to Manny's reputation. Until then, the only thing we can do is debate it back and forth without any real winners.

With regards to both Pacquiao-Marquez fight, I had no clear winner in mind after the last round ended. It was really very close and I would not complain if either of them won. It just happened that the opinions that mattered most are those of the judges. In the Pacquiao-Morales I, even though it wasn't a total domination, it's obvious that Erik was the better man that night.