haye/klitchko confrontation(must watch)!

[Mark TKO]

Lyle I agree with you re those that spout off - I don't support all our fighters.

But I take a lot of what Haye says tongue in cheek and find him funny rather than cocky. And he's creating interest which the whole of boxing should be thankful for.

If he beats , the top 5 all time heavyweight and future Hall of famer , John Ruiz in April then a Klitschko looms and though I make them both favourite over him I really hope its Wlad as he's vulnerable to the power Haye has a chance of a stoppage win. (KingRome thats a silly statement to question his power)

If he fights Vitali then I think he will be destroyed. I know it was a few years ago but if Lewis couldnt trouble him with that ridiculous right uppercut he landed then I dont thing Haye, fighting cautiously , will be able to damage him at all.

However - whoever comes out on top between these three will then have the unenviable task of trying to avoid a certain death showdown with A-Force.

[KingRome]

Lyle I agree with you re those that spout off - I don't support all our fighters.

But I take a lot of what Haye says tongue in cheek and find him funny rather than cocky. And he's creating interest which the whole of boxing should be thankful for.

If he beats , the top 5 all time heavyweight and future Hall of famer , John Ruiz in April then a Klitschko looms and though I make them both favourite over him I really hope its Wlad as he's vulnerable to the power Haye has a chance of a stoppage win. (KingRome thats a silly statement to question his power)

If he fights Vitali then I think he will be destroyed. I know it was a few years ago but if Lewis couldnt trouble him with that ridiculous right uppercut he landed then I dont thing Haye, fighting cautiously , will be able to damage him at all.

However - whoever comes out on top between these three will then have the unenviable task of trying to avoid a certain death showdown with A-Force.

Silly statement to question his power? Im not sure what fights you are watching, but i have not seen any power displayed by Haye. The a retarded statement is calling Wladimir "vulnerable". His losses were bullsh!t, nothing short of bad luck. You don't become the world heavy weight champion and knock out 47 people if you are vulnerable (unless you fight a fat slob like valuev, hit him, and run like hell)

[The Promoter]

So Haye is talking a lot of smack and Wlad tells him to get in line...Just a couple of thoughts:

- Is there a bigger heavyweight fight to be made than Haye-Klitschko?
- Why would Wlad want Haye to "get in line" risking a loss and a lose
huge payday?
- If this would be an easy fight for Wlad why doesn't he take the fight take a
huge payday and shut this guy up?

Wlad's behavior is very odd unless Haye has really gotten inside his head and has Wlad questioning himself....Otherwise Wlad avoiding him makes no sense.

[El Kabong]

Wlad's behavior is very odd unless Haye has really gotten inside his head and has Wlad questioning himself....Otherwise Wlad avoiding him makes no sense.

Really? So it's bad for the champion to request (especially after the CHALLENGER ducked Wladimir) that the challenger earn his title shot?

Sure there's a ton of money to be made off of this fight which is why BOTH Klitschko's tried to fight this punk.

Now why would the now current WBA title holder have ducked them if he wanted to fight them so bad to begin with

[The Promoter]

Wlad's behavior is very odd unless Haye has really gotten inside his head and has Wlad questioning himself....Otherwise Wlad avoiding him makes no sense.

Really? So it's bad for the champion to request (especially after the CHALLENGER ducked Wladimir) that the challenger earn his title shot?

Sure there's a ton of money to be made off of this fight which is why BOTH Klitschko's tried to fight this punk.

Now why would the now current WBA title holder have ducked them if he wanted to fight them so bad to begin with

Let's boil this down, heavyweight boxing is not a spot of "honor" or "deserved" shots. It's a sport of money, every time in the ring could be your last so you're a fool if you don't take big paydays when they are available. Haye backed out of the earlier fights because he wanted more money and the Klitschko's low balled him because he had no belt. Now with the WBA belt David commands more money, simple. From what I've seen it's only David Haye talking about unifying the titles, why isn't Wlad? You saw the confrontation with Wlad telling Haye "to get in line"..WHAT LINE?!?!? This is the only heavyweight fight (except for Wlad v Vitali that will generate any interest. Or I guess Wlad v Eddie Chambers is more exciting to you?

[panthro]

Wlad's behavior is very odd unless Haye has really gotten inside his head and has Wlad questioning himself....Otherwise Wlad avoiding him makes no sense.

Really? So it's bad for the champion to request (especially after the CHALLENGER ducked Wladimir) that the challenger earn his title shot?

Sure there's a ton of money to be made off of this fight which is why BOTH Klitschko's tried to fight this punk.

Now why would the now current WBA title holder have ducked them if he wanted to fight them so bad to begin with

Let's boil this down, heavyweight boxing is not a spot of "honor" or "deserved" shots. It's a sport of money, every time in the ring could be your last so you're a fool if you don't take big paydays when they are available. Haye backed out of the earlier fights because he wanted more money and the Klitschko's low balled him because he had no belt. Now with the WBA belt David commands more money, simple. From what I've seen it's only David Haye talking about unifying the titles, why isn't Wlad? You saw the confrontation with Wlad telling Haye "to get in line"..WHAT LINE?!?!? This is the only heavyweight fight (except for Wlad v Vitali that will generate any interest. Or I guess Wlad v Eddie Chambers is more exciting to you?

co-signed. thats real talks.

[AdamGB]

The only money haye was going to get after accepting a shitty deal from Klit was the money generated from Setanta... when they went bust he was getting almost literally no money for the fight.

[KingRome]

So Haye is talking a lot of smack and Wlad tells him to get in line...Just a couple of thoughts:

- Is there a bigger heavyweight fight to be made than Haye-Klitschko?
- Why would Wlad want Haye to "get in line" risking a loss and a lose
huge payday?
- If this would be an easy fight for Wlad why doesn't he take the fight take a
huge payday and shut this guy up?

Wlad's behavior is very odd unless Haye has really gotten inside his head and has Wlad questioning himself....Otherwise Wlad avoiding him makes no sense.

Please explain to me how exactly has either of the Klitchkos avoided him? they told him he is a nobody, and better earn some heavyweight credit if he wants a title shot... after all the trash talk from haye, both Klitchkos wanted to get inside the ring and demolish him... he backed out... why? because he is doing this for publicity... and he will not step in the ring unless he gets enough money that will make up for getting brutaly knocked out. money this, money that.... idc what haye's reasons are, idc about money, i don't care about ppv, boxing is boxing.. if you are a boxing fan to see who gets more money, you probably should go watch who wants to be a millionaire instead.

[The Promoter]

So Haye is talking a lot of smack and Wlad tells him to get in line...Just a couple of thoughts:

- Is there a bigger heavyweight fight to be made than Haye-Klitschko?
- Why would Wlad want Haye to "get in line" risking a loss and a lose
huge payday?
- If this would be an easy fight for Wlad why doesn't he take the fight take a
huge payday and shut this guy up?

Wlad's behavior is very odd unless Haye has really gotten inside his head and has Wlad questioning himself....Otherwise Wlad avoiding him makes no sense.

Please explain to me how exactly has either of the Klitchkos avoided him? they told him he is a nobody, and better earn some heavyweight credit if he wants a title shot... after all the trash talk from haye, both Klitchkos wanted to get inside the ring and demolish him... he backed out... why? because he is doing this for publicity... and he will not step in the ring unless he gets enough money that will make up for getting brutaly knocked out. money this, money that.... idc what haye's reasons are, idc about money, i don't care about ppv, boxing is boxing.. if you are a boxing fan to see who gets more money, you probably should go watch who wants to be a millionaire instead.

You're kidding right? First both Kitschko's said they wanted to fight him then low balled him on the offer sheet saying he earned nothing in the Heavyweight division. Haye went out and is now the WBA Heavyweight champ so now Wlad tells him to get in line. Why is that? If we want to play your game of "whos deserves what" , who deserves a shot more than David Haye the reigning WBA Heavyweight Champ...Maybe you think Wlad should fight the WBC champ, which I would love to see

[El Kabong]

You're kidding right? First both Kitschko's said they wanted to fight him then low balled him on the offer sheet saying he earned nothing in the Heavyweight division. Haye went out and is now the WBA Heavyweight champ so now Wlad tells him to get in line. Why is that? If we want to play your game of "whos deserves what" , who deserves a shot more than David Haye the reigning WBA Heavyweight Champ...Maybe you think Wlad should fight the WBC champ, which I would love to see

The Klitschko's tried to fight him TWICE and that little turd pulled out of both fights, it's not because of money it was going to be the most money that little bastard ever made, but his little TV deal fell through and he ended up hurting himself "shaddow boxing"

You fight in the WBA rankings because you want to fight for a title but you don't want to acheive anything substantial in the division.

[The Promoter]

You're kidding right? First both Kitschko's said they wanted to fight him then low balled him on the offer sheet saying he earned nothing in the Heavyweight division. Haye went out and is now the WBA Heavyweight champ so now Wlad tells him to get in line. Why is that? If we want to play your game of "whos deserves what" , who deserves a shot more than David Haye the reigning WBA Heavyweight Champ...Maybe you think Wlad should fight the WBC champ, which I would love to see

The Klitschko's tried to fight him TWICE and that little turd pulled out of both fights, it's not because of money it was going to be the most money that little bastard ever made, but his little TV deal fell through and he ended up hurting himself "shaddow boxing"

You fight in the WBA rankings because you want to fight for a title but you don't want to acheive anything substantial in the division.

Lyle, while I usually respect your opinion, don't let your personal favorite cloud the bigger picture. Saying "You fight in the WBA rankings because you want to fight for a title but you don't want to acheive anything substantial in the division" is just plain silly, and historically incorrect. For about the last 10 years the WBA has been a weaker Heavyweight title to hold but prior it was probably the most significant and relevant Heavyweight title to hold, that's a fact. You know very well that a title is only as relevant as the title holder, so I'll ask a question; If Wlad held the WBA title would you still call it irrelevant? If not why can't he beat the crap out of David Haye and unify the titles like ATG's ; Ali, Holmes, Tyson, etc have done in the past?