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    Default Re: Whos the real King of Rock n Roll?

    ...date a minor....ha, try MARRY his cousin....bad move. But Killer was hella talented

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I compared Elvis to Eminem, Justin Timberlake and the Beastie Boys in that he made a certain type of black music very popular to the white kids in the suburbs just like them. Isn't this true? SO what part of that statement is false?
    To compare Elvis to those people essentially denies his talent. May I ask you why Elvis is THE Rock'n'Roll icon? Sure as miles said he "interpreted" most of the R&B portion of his arsenal that was more heavily routed in the black communities of the time but there has to be a reason why Elvis is called The King and why Chuck Berry, Bo, and all the rest of the black Rock'n'Roll Founding Fathers were kind of left in the shaddow of Elvis.

    Also since rock broke onto the scene in the 1950's just how many black muscians and acts have their been in the genre besides Chuck and Bo? Rock'n'Roll IS suburbia man.

    Also if anyone "stole" from Chuck Berry it was The Beach Boys (great band as they were they still stole Berry's riffs)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le51jB37Fro

    But hell in music everyone steals, borrows, or is "inspired by" the people that came before them. The thing is Elvis is Elvis and that puts him at the top of the list because....(and I wonder if anyone thought of this when I mentioned it before) did anyone think about how many TVs there actually were when Elvis did 'Aloha From Hawaii' when he got 1.5 BILLION people to watch that live? I mean that is CRAZY.

    Oh well I guess we're just going to have to disagree, I like Chuck and Bo, I really do but they didn't over shaddow the genre the way Elvis did and that's no disservice to what those guys did but Elvis is the icon for a reason, it's not for lack of talent and it's not for him "stealing" songs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    ...date a minor....ha, try MARRY his cousin....bad move. But Killer was hella talented

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I compared Elvis to Eminem, Justin Timberlake and the Beastie Boys in that he made a certain type of black music very popular to the white kids in the suburbs just like them. Isn't this true? SO what part of that statement is false?
    To compare Elvis to those people essentially denies his talent. May I ask you why Elvis is THE Rock'n'Roll icon? Sure as miles said he "interpreted" most of the R&B portion of his arsenal that was more heavily routed in the black communities of the time but there has to be a reason why Elvis is called The King and why Chuck Berry, Bo, and all the rest of the black Rock'n'Roll Founding Fathers were kind of left in the shaddow of Elvis.

    Also since rock broke onto the scene in the 1950's just how many black muscians and acts have their been in the genre besides Chuck and Bo? Rock'n'Roll IS suburbia man.

    Also if anyone "stole" from Chuck Berry it was The Beach Boys (great band as they were they still stole Berry's riffs)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le51jB37Fro
    But hell in music everyone steals, borrows, or is "inspired by" the people that came before them. The thing is Elvis is Elvis and that puts him at the top of the list because....(and I wonder if anyone thought of this when I mentioned it before) did anyone think about how many TVs there actually were when Elvis did 'Aloha From Hawaii' when he got 1.5 BILLION people to watch that live? I mean that is CRAZY.

    Oh well I guess we're just going to have to disagree, I like Chuck and Bo, I really do but they didn't over shaddow the genre the way Elvis did and that's no disservice to what those guys did but Elvis is the icon for a reason, it's not for lack of talent and it's not for him "stealing" songs.

    But his cousin was also 13 years old if I am correct at the moment of the act...
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    Default Re: Whos the real King of Rock n Roll?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    ...date a minor....ha, try MARRY his cousin....bad move. But Killer was hella talented

    Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
    I compared Elvis to Eminem, Justin Timberlake and the Beastie Boys in that he made a certain type of black music very popular to the white kids in the suburbs just like them. Isn't this true? SO what part of that statement is false?
    To compare Elvis to those people essentially denies his talent. May I ask you why Elvis is THE Rock'n'Roll icon? Sure as miles said he "interpreted" most of the R&B portion of his arsenal that was more heavily routed in the black communities of the time but there has to be a reason why Elvis is called The King and why Chuck Berry, Bo, and all the rest of the black Rock'n'Roll Founding Fathers were kind of left in the shaddow of Elvis.

    Also since rock broke onto the scene in the 1950's just how many black muscians and acts have their been in the genre besides Chuck and Bo? Rock'n'Roll IS suburbia man.

    Also if anyone "stole" from Chuck Berry it was The Beach Boys (great band as they were they still stole Berry's riffs)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le51jB37Fro
    But hell in music everyone steals, borrows, or is "inspired by" the people that came before them. The thing is Elvis is Elvis and that puts him at the top of the list because....(and I wonder if anyone thought of this when I mentioned it before) did anyone think about how many TVs there actually were when Elvis did 'Aloha From Hawaii' when he got 1.5 BILLION people to watch that live? I mean that is CRAZY.

    Oh well I guess we're just going to have to disagree, I like Chuck and Bo, I really do but they didn't over shaddow the genre the way Elvis did and that's no disservice to what those guys did but Elvis is the icon for a reason, it's not for lack of talent and it's not for him "stealing" songs.
    I never denied Elvis talent. I made an appropriate comparison with Eminem, Justin Timberlake in that the musical genre they engaged in was not popular to the masses/white people until a talented white guy came along and introduced it to them.

    Sure everyone borrows or is influenced by someone. But the masses said he created rock n roll and that without Elvis there would not be rock n roll which is entirely false. He did not create this genre. He just made it popular for white kids in the suburbs kind of like Justin Timberlake and Eminem did for different genres of music. There would still be rock n roll without Elvis.

    And the reason why Elvis is called the King and is more popular than Berry, Didley, Little Richard and the pioneers was that he was the right color and they were not. This was the 1950's we're talking about when rock exploded. And the 1950s is an era that wasn't too kind to blacks. They needed the right guy to market this musical genre and Elvis is the right guy.

    Saying Elvis is the King of rock is like saying Kenny G is the king of Jazz, or Eminem is the king of hip hop or Justin Timberlake is the king of RnB.

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    The question is "who is the real King of Rock'n'Roll?" and the correct answer is ELVIS....end of discussion.

    Who were the Founders of Rock'n'Roll might give us a different answer BUT Elvis would still be in there....disagree with me if you must but Elvis is THE KING.

    Your posting comparing Elvis to Timerblake and Eminem is just fucking idiotic on a bunch of levels. #1 Elvis isn't Pat Boone he didn't outright copy the music and "turn it white" and #2 White kids in the suburbs liked rap looooooong before Eminem and #3 Justin Timberlake Really....if white people want soul in their singing they turn to a couple people NONE OF THEM are named Justin Timberlake
    Last edited by El Kabong; 03-01-2010 at 10:07 AM.

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