Manny Pacquiao Is Unbelievable.

[JazMerkin]

Off the top of my head I can think of at least 10 fighters, in divisions Pac has fought, that were MUCH better: I have limited this list to just fighters I have seen live or on tape which eliminates older all time greats such as Leonard, Greb, Gans, Walker, Ross, Attell,etc. and any fighter middleweight or above. There are also others like Arguello, Whitaker, Chavez, Ortiz who I feel were better, but don't rank as high as these 10.

Sugar Ray Robinson
Aaron Pryor
Sugar Ray Leonard
Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran
Joe Brown
Sandy Saddler
Willie Pep
Henry Armstrong
Eder Jofre



Let's not forget that all of those who say that Floyd has ducked some tough fighters, Manny has ducked a few also like:Shane, Cassamayor, Campbell and Guzman.

I would favour Pacquiao to have beaten Pryor and he is a greater fighter no doubt.

However, any judgements on Pacquaio's career should be delayed till his career is over. He's doing amazing things right now, but an assessment needs to be made only after his career is definitively over.

[Kev]

Off the top of my head I can think of at least 10 fighters, in divisions Pac has fought, that were MUCH better: I have limited this list to just fighters I have seen live or on tape which eliminates older all time greats such as Leonard, Greb, Gans, Walker, Ross, Attell,etc. and any fighter middleweight or above. There are also others like Arguello, Whitaker, Chavez, Ortiz who I feel were better, but don't rank as high as these 10.

Sugar Ray Robinson
Aaron Pryor
Sugar Ray Leonard
Thomas Hearns
Roberto Duran
Joe Brown
Sandy Saddler
Willie Pep
Henry Armstrong
Eder Jofre



Let's not forget that all of those who say that Floyd has ducked some tough fighters, Manny has ducked a few also like:Shane, Cassamayor, Campbell and Guzman.

I would favour Pacquiao to have beaten Pryor and he is a greater fighter no doubt.

However, any judgements on Pacquaio's career should be delayed till his career is over. He's doing amazing things right now, but an assessment needs to be made only after his career is definitively over.

Whilst in theory I agree with you Jaz to do so makes forums such as this redundant, the whole point of a forum is to stimulate discussion about our favourite subjects and whether it's correct from a long term historic perspective has no relevance.

What matters is people bantering with each other, and me knowing that my views are the right views.