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I think if Pavlik believes his own hype that he is a "one punch knockouter" kind of guy he will be in trouble. But if the old Kelly shows up throwing over 100 punches a round or close to that.It will be a good night for Kelly. I think Martinez is slick and has great skill at 154 but at 160 Kelly is a different animal than Martinez has ever faced.Even if the punches are blocked they physically will move Martinez around the ring. I say TKO in 10 for Kelly. Martinez could win this if he is on his bicycle all night but I think he will have too much pride and try to trade with Kelly at some point and get hurt.
You going to the fight? It's in AC...

You say that even though Martinez fought Paul Williams at 160, a guy who is as long as Pavlik and throws as many punches as Pavlik although without the power. Yet, Williams has better movement than Pavlik and is faster. See the whole 160 thing is correct in a sense in that Martinez is probably more dominant at 154 and that's where he belongs. I favor him in fights with most guys out there at 154. But, that doesn't mean he can't move up in weight and beat guys at 160 because he did it for all intents and purposes against Williams.
I here you in a way. Paul Williams doesn't have any pop from what I seen at 160 that is why I had Pavlik easily beating him if they had met. Williams still has good range and good movement but Kelly's mechanics a simply better. A much stiffer jab,a solid right hand and if you look at Pavlik he is very well taught. Never finishes combinations off balance, never is out of position to not throw any punch he is simply well taught. Were if you look at Williams he was constantly leaning in with his left hand against Martinez and Quintana and getting clocked by the counter left. Williams is a very rythymic fighter( I like to call him) Once he is out of his rythym he can be beaten. Hence Quintana and in my mind the Martinez defeats . We also do have to remember this was both of there first fight's at middleweight. So either of them didn't get a true feel for a natural middleweight.

I still don't know if I will be going down there. I have a pregnant wife and she is a bit unpredictable at this state. She just may want to sleep the whole weekend.