Sugar Ray Robinson without a doubt because it wasn't just speed and it wasn't power only but leverage.
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Sugar Ray Robinson without a doubt because it wasn't just speed and it wasn't power only but leverage.
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From what I have seen I'd say Roy jones.might be wrong as never shared a ring with any of them
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Sorry why is pernell up there? He didn't have very much power, and he didn't have truly elite speed either? It's unfair pitting him against guys like RJJ and the like.
Even Mayweather who was faster than Pernell shouldn't be up there because he doesn't have the combination of both power and speed.
Where is Pacquiao?
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Originally Posted by Taeth
Floyd isn't up there..and I left pac out because manny pacfanboys would have clouded the poll
"Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones
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Why is WHitaker up there and Floyd isn't? He both is faster and hits harder than Pernell WHitaker and he wouldn't even win this... thus making WHitaker a confusing choice.
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Don't think floyd hits as hard as those guys, esp with his brittle hands. And you're right Sweet pea probably shouldn't be up there, but there are several guys that could have been up there..Arguello, foster, trinidad, judah, GMAN, toney, etc... ..but this isn't an hypothetical "All time" poll, its just a question asking of those listed, Who had quicker hands combined with power?...
"Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones
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You forgot Hands of Stone in your list. At lightweight he had speed and power, especially more so the latter.
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Don't think floyd hits as hard as those guys, esp with his brittle hands. And you're right Sweet pea probably shouldn't be up there, but there are several guys that could have been up there..Arguello, foster, trinidad, judah, GMAN, toney, etc... ..but this isn't an hypothetical "All time" poll, its just a question asking of those listed, Who had quicker hands combined with power?...
This why Mayweather and WHitaker shouldn't be up there because they didn't possess elite power.
I am surprised Hearns' isn't up there, I think his speed was way up there and his power at WW was p4p as elite as anyone as I can think of. It wasn't the type of power that looked good on a punching bag, but he had the kind of snap that could render almost anyone unconscious.
Also I think its super unfair to not have Manny up there, for a guy who still about a lightweight in size to be outpunching/outpowering some of the biggest/strongest guys at welterweight is an awsome feat that any competent boxing fan should admire. I agree as a welterweight he probably doesn't ahve the one punch power of some guys, but imo his power would be up there with SRL and Mosley, and he is just as fast. I just think its his tenacity that separates him offensively from these guys. Leonard and Mosley had/have a very difficult time both being the warrior and the boxer simultaneously while Manny does it effortlessly, and I believe he works harder in the gym.
Re: Who had quicker hands combined with power? PART TWO
Pernell Whitaker had underrated power, its just he didn't normally plant his feet. Because he was just looking to land fast shots with no power. Then use his brillant defensive skills to avoid punches, one example of his power was against Diosbelys Hurtado, that was one of the most brutal KO's i've ever seen.
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yeah sweetpeas power was underrated but i think floyds power is up there too or even way way better.. o yeah wheres duran?Pernell Whitaker had underrated power, its just he didn't normally plant his feet. Because he was just looking to land fast shots with no power. Then use his brillant defensive skills to avoid punches, one example of his power was against Diosbelys Hurtado, that was one of the most brutal KO's i've ever seen.
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Floyd Mayweather Jr had very good pop, at Super Featherweight. Also ODLH was a big puncher with good handspeed, at the lower weightclasses aswell. I also think Edwin Rosario had good handspeed, and his KO ratio speaks for itself.yeah sweetpeas power was underrated but i think floyds power is up there too or even way way better.. o yeah wheres duran?Pernell Whitaker had underrated power, its just he didn't normally plant his feet. Because he was just looking to land fast shots with no power. Then use his brillant defensive skills to avoid punches, one example of his power was against Diosbelys Hurtado, that was one of the most brutal KO's i've ever seen.
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Again Sugar Ray Robinson easily.
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Roy Jones..
Ray Leonard was faster than him, but not as powerful. Roy had the best combination of speed and power.
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i say rjj
shane and hamed had both quick hands plus pop too but since i can only pick one im going with rjj.
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RJJ.
I still dont get why people are argueing over who should and shouldn't be in the poll, as JonesJrMayweather pretty clearly explained what the point of the thread was.
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