Re: Early prediction: Mayweather-Mosley

Originally Posted by
Taeth

Originally Posted by
JonesJrMayweather

Originally Posted by
Dizaster
I'd like to agree, but unfortunately Mar speaks the truth..
Every Floyd fight, at least 50% of people here give his opponent a chance... Perhaps not because 50% of people genuinally think Floyd will get beat, but because 50% of people WANT him to get beat, and are convincing themselves the other guy has a chance by focusing ONLY on the plus side abilities of Floyd's opponents...
The thing they ignore is the Floyd factor... Every fight people give his opponent a chance for this or that reason.. Every fight Floyd makes them look stupid and any perceived advantage the opponent was supposed to have, just doesn't materialize into anything other than a petty attempt to win a couple of round points against Floyd...
I've said it before, I want to see Floyd get beat.. Mainly because if anyone DOES beat him, it'll be one of the most special, masterful performances of fighting/boxing skill that we have seen in 20 years... Because Floyd is that good, that to actually overcome him, it'll be one hell of a spectacle..
I have no doubt this will be another Floyd fight, in the long list of Floyd fights, where the hype of a potential opponent (Mosley in this case) win, will last right up to the fight and maybe for a few rounds in, but then completely die on it's ass as if the hype never existed...
Prediction : Floyd domination as usual... I think people distort their memories of past Floyd fights and his skill.... Go back and actually watch a bunch, then come back and post....
AND here is the funny thing about the stupid Floyd Nuthugging thread that is going on.... The post I just wrote sounds like Nuthugging.. The Post Mar wrote sounds like nuthugging... The posts that VD and JT write about FLoyd sound like Nuthugging....
The thing is they aren't.... They are just stating fact... Stating reality.... Without the distortion of hope Mayweather finally gets his ass handed to him on a plate... Hell, I want Floyd to get beat as much as anyone else....
You can't be a nuthugger by stating Floyd is hands down going to beat every opponent he steps in with, when the fact is, he is and has beat every opponent he has stepped in with..
That's excellent..everything you said, BUT two question first:
Name one fighter on floyd's resume who will rank higher than shane p4p? And please don't say oscar...
So do you think floyd will retire undefeated? I truly understand what you, mar, trock all see in floyd, I see the same because it was same with RJJ, I felt the only way to beat him was to land and hope he doesn't get up, but that was only because RJJ RARELY lost a round let alone came close to losing a fight.
Floyd on the other hand hasn't been as dominant as prime RJJ was and has shown that one can get to him and put rounds in the bank. But i still feel as though it will take a Kayo to beat floyd, because no one will outbox him over 12. Just had roy survived that tarver KD he would have stayed away and boxed from the outside. Floyd too, if Shane hurts him early, it will look like the last few rounds of the Cotto fight, PBF on his bike potshotting. But I wonder if floyd has the mobility habit that he once had when he was lighter...He clearly doesn't move as much as he used to and he will need that against shane. The kronk/philly shell will be bad for him against shane.
He largely fought comparatively better and larger guys than Roy Jones. Not only that but his power didn't come up the same as Roy's and he is a defensive fighter which generally don't look as dominant. In terms of punches landed and received he was more dominant than Roy Jones Jr. Manny Pacquiao has recently looked in some ways much more impressive than Floyd, but we will see a perfect example of why that means nothing when they face eachother. Same with Winky vs Mosley or Hopkins vs Pavlik. Against 95% of the opposition the guy who closes the show or has the other guy totally bottled up will look better, but that doesn't mean much against lesser competition.
Mayweather is much more dedicated to boxing than Roy, He trains harder, he is a much better technical fighter and he will be remember as a better fighter than Roy, and thats even if Roy had retired after beating Ruiz.
It's funny that you like to say how hatton is bigger than floyd because floyd started smaller..Roy started at 154 and spent most of his career at 175 fight natural CW sized guys and you say floyd fought bigger guys?
Def disagree with the last part, but they're all super dedicated while still undefeated. And had Roy retired after the ruiz fight the arguments would be where to put his name in the top five. Bert Sugar actually at one time listed Roy ahead of SRR. So...Roy's wins over Toney and Hopkins are still better than any win floyd has...esp the toney performance...and before you bring up toney's weight...floyd's best performance against a ggreat fighter was Corrales who was bascially the same as toney. He couldn;t make 130 anymore and only did it to get the fight with floyd...
"Sixty forty I kicks yo' ass, Sixty forty I tears yo' ass up" - Roy Jones
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