Quote Originally Posted by generalbulldog View Post
Quote Originally Posted by 1-hit Wonder View Post
Frankly General Bulldog, do a tiny bit of research before calling a fighter a manufactured product. Because frankly, your conclusion that Haye is manufactered doesnt stand up in light of the facts.

Haye has fought 25 fights, in that time he has become unified cruiserweight champ (22nd fight) and current WBA heavyweight titlist.

He has only fought 4 fighters with losing records in his career. His 1st, 3rd, 5th and 6th fights.

He fought 2 ex world titlists in his 10th and 11th fights respectively.

He is a former bronzer medalist in the amatuer world championships.

He has promoted himself and has not had the Frank Warren mismatches and filler fights. He has made his own way without the help of any big-time promotion or hype courtesy of the afformentioned devil man.

Now compare these FACTS against any current fighter you wish. I think you'll find that Haye's resume stands up to comparison.

Frankly, calling Haye a manufactered champion is the most perposterous thing ive heard on these forums for a very long time.
Okay let me be exact. An manufactured HW champion. Heavyweight! Get it? I was talking about his HW "reign." The guy punked out not once, but twice against the Klit bros. And of course half of this board were excusing that fact as the Klits offering him a bad contract.

I can also name a bunch of fighters that blows away his resume. Starting with the 2 current faces of boxing and the 2 old timers fighting yesterday.

@Fenster, fair enough if you see Bradley as just an alphabet title holder, but his resume blows away what Khan has done. And the guy fights any guy in his division. You can't say that about Con boy.

Yes people have said, and I have agreed that Wlad does not have a fan friendly style, but hey he's the man of the division. Until someone beats him.
Maybe so, but if Kahn beats Malignaggi, then he won't be far behind him in terms of resume. I don't see the deal either way, both fighters have so much time in front of them. You can bitch about Khan all you want but he's stepping up the level of opposition much quicker than Calzaghe and Hatton did and they've both had very good careers.

Haye didn't punk the Klit fight. The reason he pulled out was down to the TV deal. Basically the only money he was making from the fight would have been from the ppv sales from Setanta. Setanta went bankrput, therefore np pay for Haye. Obviously you'd want him to fight for free, but in the real world it doesn't work like that.