David Haye another Amir Con? Manufactured "champ?"

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David Haye in my opinion is another Amir Khan or should I say Con?

Just like Con boy he picks up an alphabet strap by fighting the worst champion in the division in Con boy's case it was Kotelnik, in Haye's case Valuev. Valuev retained his belt via controversial decision against Holyfield and Kotelnik via controversial decision against Maidana. Just like Con boy he is also the holder of the WBA belt. Arguably the worst major organization out there with super champions and interim champions. And he also defended his strap against a weak mandatory, in Con boy's case Salita and Haye's case Ruiz (now all of a sudden people are acting like Ruiz was elite.)

Haye and Con boy also ducked the real champ of the division and the elite contenders. Con boy ducks Maidana, an somewhat elite contender with dangerous power, and Tim Bradley considered by many to be the man of the 140 pounders. Haye ducks an elite contender in Vitali (with the WBC strap) and punked out against the champ/man of the HW division, Wladimir.

Haye just like con boy gets hyped up, so called savior of the HW division and will supposedly beat the Klit Bros easily.

Both Con boy and Haye are what boxing fans like me would like to called manufactured "champs." And please stop calling Haye the HW champ, he's not, that's like calling Con boy 140 pound champ, he's not. Last I checked Wladimir is still the man at HW and Bradley is the man at 140. Having a trinket don't mean shit in today's boxing.

What I just typed out is the truth. Ain't no exaggerating anything.

Your timing with this topic just come off as sour grapes for me.
Haye wins a fight and now you feel the need to start a little Haye hating eh?

Champs, manufactured or not are still champs. If it was so easy then everyone would do it now wouldn't they? Ah right, but they can't.

I agree. Your analysis is pretty good, but to point this out after the most impressive win of his career.

[El Kabong]

So beating up a 38 year old John Ruiz who hadn't been performing at HIS top level for quite some time qualifies as this dudes biggest win?


LAME!

And you think since this dude beat Valuev and Ruiz he's a true champ and not protected at all? And that he has any chance at beating Wladimir? That's funny, considering who in the recent past and in Ruiz's prime gave him very difficult fights. Andrew Golota anyone?

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Haye had a very good amateur pedigree, as a pro he is actually quite a big guy now and grown into the heavyweights nicely, In any other era, he would be regarded as a big heavy.

I think he has slick boxing skills, bags of self confidence and he can punch.

On the negative, I think he is fragile ...... so he makes for an interesting fight every time.

Not sure about him being manufactured ...... some people seem to forget how Joe Louis, Rocky Marciano, Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson rose to the top so quickly - huge hype, connected handlers, carefully picked early opponents.

I would say that haye has a chance against Wlad. Wlad is a bit chinny himself and whover lands first wins, though I think Wlad's height, reach and technique would make him the favourite to win.

Assuming that Vitali doesnt get old overnight, I think he's just too big and durable for Haye.