David Haye another Amir Con? Manufactured "champ?"

[FTMatty]

I just hope that Haye will prove all these doubters wrong. I'd love to see him unify the titles.

I hear that Golden Boy want him to fight Hopkins next.

[Mark TKO]

not had time to real all this thread but calling Haye another Khan is a fucking insult.


I would pick Haye to beat any other fighter in top ten heavies at moment - just not the Klitschkos - though he has a chance particularly against Wlad.

[Hornfinger]

Hold on silly buggers.

What was the injury khan had halfway through his training camp for maidana? Oh hang on he never called out Maidana to his face and never signed to fight him. And will he call out maidana after malignaggi? Nope

Can we stop the bullshit nonsence please?

[generalbulldog]

Haye is an manufactured champ at HW. When you beat guys like Barret, Valuev, and 38 year old Ruiz, that's considered to be an awesome HW resume?

People are now acting like Ruiz was an elite guy. Haye big mouth, can't back it up. When you make t shirts with decapitated heads and talk about another man's family and back out of 2 fights against them, what do you expect people to say?

And I thought it was funny that half of this forum blamed the Klit bros for David Haye backing out of the fight twice, you know the so called bad contract or whatever.

[ninjaspy3]

Haye is an manufactured champ at HW. When you beat guys like Barret, Valuev, and 38 year old Ruiz, that's considered to be an awesome HW resume?

People are now acting like Ruiz was an elite guy. Haye big mouth, can't back it up. When you make t shirts with decapitated heads and talk about another man's family and back out of 2 fights against them, what do you expect people to say?

And I thought it was funny that half of this forum blamed the Klit bros for David Haye backing out of the fight twice, you know the so called bad contract or whatever.

So by your logic then I suppose anyone of the WBA champs (incl former champs) is manufactured:

Ruiz, Valuev, Chagaev

But there is no manufactured thread on these guys? Why not?

[generalbulldog]

Haye is an manufactured champ at HW. When you beat guys like Barret, Valuev, and 38 year old Ruiz, that's considered to be an awesome HW resume?

People are now acting like Ruiz was an elite guy. Haye big mouth, can't back it up. When you make t shirts with decapitated heads and talk about another man's family and back out of 2 fights against them, what do you expect people to say?

And I thought it was funny that half of this forum blamed the Klit bros for David Haye backing out of the fight twice, you know the so called bad contract or whatever.

So by your logic then I suppose anyone of the WBA champs (incl former champs) is manufactured:

Ruiz, Valuev, Chagaev

But there is no manufactured thread on these guys? Why not?

Those 3 guys you mentioned are just as bad.

But here's the difference between Haye and those 3. No one said they would beat the Klit bros easily and definitely. No one called those 3 guys the next Evander Holyfield. And no one called those 3 guys the next great HW champion that will clean out the division easily. And 1 last thing, they were not called the savior of the HW division.

Big enough difference for you?

[Hornfinger]

Haye is an manufactured champ at HW. When you beat guys like Barret, Valuev, and 38 year old Ruiz, that's considered to be an awesome HW resume?

People are now acting like Ruiz was an elite guy. Haye big mouth, can't back it up. When you make t shirts with decapitated heads and talk about another man's family and back out of 2 fights against them, what do you expect people to say?

And I thought it was funny that half of this forum blamed the Klit bros for David Haye backing out of the fight twice, you know the so called bad contract or whatever.

He's british get over it.

[JazMerkin]

There should be a ban on posters attempting to do these VD-esque threads like these. He gets the balance right, so at least if you don't agree you at least get something funny out of it. Now whenever I read these kind of threads, I just feel disappointed.

This is like turning up to see a Manny Pacquiao fight & getting to watch Mark Melligen instead.

Anyway, no Haye isn't manufactured. You could accuse almost any of the hyped Brits of recent years (Hatton, Calzaghe, Khan) of being manufactured and taking weak opposition, but you just can't say that about Haye. He's always taken tough challenges and chances, and with confidence I can say he will have fought a Klitschko by the end of the year.

[Mar]

To be honest i'm not sure of either guy really...haye had even me going for a bit. But now that i look back i don't think he ever intended on fighting either klitch. I think the talk and t shirts were more meant to help him sell lesser fights against valuev, ruiz, arreolla, chambers people like that. I actually feel kinda bad for doubting the brothers for not fighting haye when he was just using thier names the same way people use floyd. But hey it worked so can't knock him for it. I know everyone hates khan but he's another i'm not sure about. He does have some potential there and one loss can be better for some guys than bad.

[generalbulldog]

Haye is an manufactured champ at HW. When you beat guys like Barret, Valuev, and 38 year old Ruiz, that's considered to be an awesome HW resume?

People are now acting like Ruiz was an elite guy. Haye big mouth, can't back it up. When you make t shirts with decapitated heads and talk about another man's family and back out of 2 fights against them, what do you expect people to say?

And I thought it was funny that half of this forum blamed the Klit bros for David Haye backing out of the fight twice, you know the so called bad contract or whatever.

He's british get over it.

Him being British has nothing to do with it.

Half of this forum said he was the next Evander Holyfield. He is the savior of the HW division, he beats the Klit Bros easily because Wlad is chinny, and Vitali is 38 and old and doesn't look good in his past fights. Was these not the arguments? And some even think he has just as good a resume or better than the Klit bros. Oh yeah, the Klit bros are afraid of Haye because they supposedly priced themselves out by offering Haye an unfair contract.

The truth is David Haye has not taken on great opposition at HW by fighting Valuev, 38 year old Ruiz, Monte Barret. The guy avoided the Klit bros, not once but twice.

[Hornfinger]

Haye is an manufactured champ at HW. When you beat guys like Barret, Valuev, and 38 year old Ruiz, that's considered to be an awesome HW resume?

People are now acting like Ruiz was an elite guy. Haye big mouth, can't back it up. When you make t shirts with decapitated heads and talk about another man's family and back out of 2 fights against them, what do you expect people to say?

And I thought it was funny that half of this forum blamed the Klit bros for David Haye backing out of the fight twice, you know the so called bad contract or whatever.

He's british get over it.

Him being British has nothing to do with it.

Half of this forum said he was the next Evander Holyfield. He is the savior of the HW division, he beats the Klit Bros easily because Wlad is chinny, and Vitali is 38 and old and doesn't look good in his past fights. Was these not the arguments? And some even think he has just as good a resume or better than the Klit bros. Oh yeah, the Klit bros are afraid of Haye because they supposedly priced themselves out by offering Haye an unfair contract.

The truth is David Haye has not taken on great opposition at HW by fighting Valuev, 38 year old Ruiz, Monte Barret. The guy avoided the Klit bros, not once but twice.

So if it's not about his nationality whats your problem?

He dominated his previous weightclass and now he's moved up and beaten everyone put in front of him, called out wlad to his face and would have fought him already if he hadn't got injured. And now he's looking to fight Wlad at wembley or in america or whereever.

Now please. Stop talking crap.


Personally after recently watching vids of both wlad and vit I think Vit would be the easier fight for him.