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    Default Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers

    It makes you wonder how he could have agreed to the deal in the first place. He's either delusional or he's in serious money trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing View Post
    It makes you wonder how he could have agreed to the deal in the first place. He's either delusional or he's in serious money trouble.
    He is having money problems, because of all the money he blew financing his own rap career. He was forced to take this risky deal because after his loss to Green, the original deal went out the window. Roy obviously thought the fight would do better business so he took a risk.

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    "The sad thing about the fight is that Jones won’t make anything. Let’s assume for a second that the 6,792 in the building actually paid for their seats (we know that’s not true) and that the seats averaged $300 a ticket (a figure higher than reality). That would mean the gate was $2 million. If the expenses to rent the building and promote the fight were $1 million, that means $1 million is left. Now, let’s figure it sold 100,000 pay-per-views at $49.95 apiece. That’s about $5 million. They have to split 50 percent of that with the cable and satellite operators, so that leaves $2.498 million for themselves. Add the $1 million from the gate and the $2.498 million from the pay-per-view and you have $3.498 million in profit. Given that the contract called for the first $3.5 million in profit to go to Hopkins and Golden Boy, it’s almost certain Jones fought for nothing. Actual revenue will likely be far less than I’ve described above."

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    It seems it really is true that Roy got paid nothing.

    yeah Hopkins really did fuk Roy over.

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    Default Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers

    I m surprised that a business man like Roy would put himself in that position.
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    Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.

    What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...

    These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.

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    Default Re: Hopkins vs Jones PPV numbers

    Roy jones got paid some money trust me. Maybe not the kind of deal he is used to putting together but hes been around to long not to get a dime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.

    What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...

    These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
    shit i wish i'd end up with half the money that Hopkins and Jones have, their far from being broke, their just greedy as fuck both can live the rest of their lives without working another day in their lives

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    [QUOTE=albsur2006;858698]Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.

    What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...

    These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.[/Q

    Doctors and engineers don't make the kind of money Jones and mayweather made.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.

    What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...

    These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
    Doctors and engineers don't make the kind of money Jones and mayweather made.........
    Doctors and engineers also don't SPEND the kind of money Jones and Mayweather made................
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.

    What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...

    These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
    Doctors and engineers don't make the kind of money Jones and mayweather made.........
    Doctors and engineers also don't SPEND the kind of money Jones and Mayweather made................
    and doctors and engineers do not have the extremly limited window of opportunity where they can make that money. They ussually can make it for the rest of their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by albsur2006 View Post
    Damn, I loved both of these guys, but I'm SICK AND TIRED of them still being in the fight game. The same egos that gave them there drive to be the best are the same egos that are screwing the hell outta them now. I mean I understand that this is there only way to make money really, but damn, when Roy Jones Jr vs Bernard Hopkins doesn't even get 100,000 buys? That should tell you that NOBODY CARES anymore. Roy Jones got some bad advice on the purse. I think he looked at his fight with Felix (another fight where fans were like "Why?") and thought that if that fight could do 500,000 then this one should at least do 500,000. The problem is that NOBODY wants to see Hopkins fight and RJJ just got knocked out in a round. Plus, just from the feeling I got from my friends, I felt a general disgust that this fight was even taking place. Honestly, I was almost offended that I would have to pay for this fight to watch. I didn't buy it because it wasn't gonna be showcase of two legends, it felt like a heist. If RJJ doesn't get paid at all for his fight, that's a mockery of boxing in general and a disgrace. These old heads are fucking ruining everything.

    What's even sadder is that I can see the same happening to Floyd, Shane, Pacquiao, etc...

    These guys (especially Floyd) spend money as if this is a career, as if they will be making this type of money for their life like they were a doctor or engineer or something like that. With their entourages, and houses, and cars, and lavish lifestyles, etc...I really hope these guys don't end up like Hopkins and Jones.
    TBH I don't think FLoyd, Shane, and Pacquiao is going to be broke once their careers are over. Shane owns a minority interest in GBP and gets a small fee or whatever for helping to promote the fights also, Floyd had IRS troubles recently but I dont' think the guy is stupid enough to be in that situation again, he can still make more money in future bouts also. Pacquiao is the richest athlete in his country's history, plus factor in the rate of exchange and the extremely cheap cost of living in the philipines compared to western countries, and he isn't going to be broke in this lifetime, unless he moves to the US and decides to live that kind of lifestyle.

    RJJ on the other hand from what I read could be in serious financial trouble, Hopkins on the other hand is frugal with his money and also owns a small part of GBP. He should be fine.

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