Joe Calzaghe or James Toney at SuperMiddleweight

[JT Rock]

People are on here like Calzaghe is the best thing since sliced bread when he did have a great performance against Jeff Lacy but that is about it!

Toney would not only make him look bad, but KO his azz before the 10th

Hahahaha

Calzaghe would decision Toney would be a very competitive fight though...

Well done Miles, we must make a stand against these ignorant Yank fools.


Ah Karma's telling me to wait, I'll click you later Miles

lol bilbo you and your condascending snooty Yank comments

I'm a yank and I feel Calzaghe would of been entirely too quick for lazy JFat. You have to be F****** braindead to believe Calzaghe would play into the little traps Toney makes.

UD, just not as embarassing as Lacy's UD. And I bet you Joe would be enough of a gentlemen to buy him a big mac after the fight

Hey raleights, glad you didn't take my Yank-biting to heart. Just for the record I also exhibit signs of smug superiority over the Canadians, Germans, French, Italians Scottish and Welsh.

All the other nations are not important enough even to think about.

All Hail Great Britannia

You jealous Basterd!!!!!! Its only cause those countries have a better cuisine than yours...Ham, Coleslaw blood pudding ,Bread and butter LOL!!!!!

try living in korea british food is top notch!!!!

By the way how do you eat your dogs, with chips or in a burger bap?

I eat hot dogs but never the canine variety!!!

Been here 3 years and never eaten the dog....Im a proud man!!!

Wow after a night on the piss I eat anything. I had a kebab the other night, don't know what it was made of but it certainly wasn't meat from any animal I've encountered before.........

I got shitfaced over in Galway Ireland as well after clubbing, there was a fastfood place that sold Lamb gyro's I remember standing there with some good looking Irish Bird I had met thinking to myself as it was cooking in the rotessiure "I have never seen a Lamb like that before"

[NorthSideX4]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from! Toney's skill & accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe has ever done! Hate Toney & the US all you want, but he is a great fighter!!!!

[Gandalf]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from! Toney's skill & accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe has ever done! Hate Toney & the US all you want, but he is a great fighter!!!!

I dont hate the US, northside. In fact toney is one of my very favourite fighters. Its just that I happen to think that Calzaghe can beat him.

In fact, Northside its your very last post that reeks of racial superiority

[Kev]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from! Toney's skill & accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe has ever done! Hate Toney & the US all you want, but he is a great fighter!!!!

Well I'm a Brit and you were us once, until you all decided our religion wasn't good enough for you and so decided to leave and move to another bigger island to set up your own little community there.

And then once there, you all decided you didn't want to play sports with the rest of the world so you all had to invent your own and host World Series' events that consist of America verus......erm America.

Then you all build nucleur weapons, but don't like it when the other countries build them so you invade to stop them so you can be the only ones with big weapons.

Then you decide that other countries histories are better than yours so you invent cinema where you can make films and rewrite their history, so that now Ben Afleck a proud American wins the Battle of Britain for England, and Mel Gibson, a proud American leads the Scottish to victory and freedom, then Steve McQueen, a proud American leads the British prisoners in their great escape from a POW camp, and Tom Hanks and his fellow proud Americans single handedly defeat the Germans at Normandy.

:P

[Gandalf]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from! Toney's skill & accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe has ever done! Hate Toney & the US all you want, but he is a great fighter!!!!

Well I'm a Brit and you were us once, until you all decided our religion wasn't good enough for you and so decided to leave and move to another bigger island to set up your own little community there.

And then once there, you all decided you didn't want to play sports with the rest of the world so you all had to invent your own and host World Series' events that consist of America verus......erm America.

Then you all build nucleur weapons, but don't like it when the other countries build them so you invade to stop them so you can be the only ones with big weapons.

Then you decide that other countries histories are better than yours so you invent cinema where you can make films and rewrite their history, so that now Ben Afleck a proud American wins the Battle of Britain for England, and Mel Gibson, a proud American leads the Scottish to victory and freedom, then Steve McQueen, a proud American leads the British prisoners in their great escape from a POW camp, and Tom Hanks and his fellow proud Americans single handedly defeat the Germans at Normandy.

:P

And seeing as I live in Korea, I might as well get in a nuclear argument. Why are the North Koreans not allowed to develop nuclear arms for self defence and yet the US has enough nuclear stockpiles to wipe out every nation on earth one by one...

the word hypocrisy springs to mind!!!

A boxer with nuclear arms would be a very hard puncher. Possibly unstoppable. :P

[Kev]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from! Toney's skill & accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe has ever done! Hate Toney & the US all you want, but he is a great fighter!!!!

Well I'm a Brit and you were us once, until you all decided our religion wasn't good enough for you and so decided to leave and move to another bigger island to set up your own little community there.

And then once there, you all decided you didn't want to play sports with the rest of the world so you all had to invent your own and host World Series' events that consist of America verus......erm America.

Then you all build nucleur weapons, but don't like it when the other countries build them so you invade to stop them so you can be the only ones with big weapons.

Then you decide that other countries histories are better than yours so you invent cinema where you can make films and rewrite their history, so that now Ben Afleck a proud American wins the Battle of Britain for England, and Mel Gibson, a proud American leads the Scottish to victory and freedom, then Steve McQueen, a proud American leads the British prisoners in their great escape from a POW camp, and Tom Hanks and his fellow proud Americans single handedly defeat the Germans at Normandy.

:P

And seeing as I live in Korea, I might as well get in a nuclear argument. Why are the North Koreans not allowed to develop nuclear arms for self defence and yet the US has enough nuclear stockpiles to wipe out every nation on earth one by one...

the word hypocrisy springs to mind!!!

A boxer with nuclear arms would be a very hard puncher. Possibly unstoppable. :P

As I said on another post, the Americans are the equivalent of the spoilt brat at school who doesn't like the other kids playing football so he kicks it on to the roof to stop them playing and goes and plays swingball on his own.

They were the sad, moaning, whiny, sanctimonius Brits who thankfully got in their little boats and fucked off to the other side of the world.

Shortly followed by the theiving, low life riff raff that we kicked out and sent to another island on the other side of the world again!

[Koori Warrior]

Toney is powerful just like Lacy. Calzhage would have danced around him all night and outboxed him. Toney would have to get in close, not much chance of that. Calzhage would have to stay out and show his skills. I doubt Toney would have the speed and or stamina to catch or keep up with Joe. It would go the distance with Calzhage clear winner. The way Toney would win would be by fairly early KO, if he could corner Joe.

[The_Mac10]

Toney is powerful just like Lacy. Calzhage would have danced around him all night and outboxed him. Toney would have to get in close, not much chance of that. Calzhage would have to stay out and show his skills. I doubt Toney would have the speed and or stamina to catch or keep up with Joe. It would go the distance with Calzhage clear winner. The way Toney would win would be by fairly early KO, if he could corner Joe.

Toney wasn't the same as Lacy.

Sure, power wise, yeah. That's were the similar ends really.

Toney is a master defensive fighter. Lacy ain't. Toney is a brilliant counter puncher. Lacy ain't. Toney at super-middle was shrewd, cunning, craft, smart, Lacy was/is still quite a green fighter.

You make it sound like Joe could just totally dominate Toney, and that's really unlikely, IMO.

[Hulk]

Toney is powerful just like Lacy. Calzhage would have danced around him all night and outboxed him. Toney would have to get in close, not much chance of that. Calzhage would have to stay out and show his skills. I doubt Toney would have the speed and or stamina to catch or keep up with Joe. It would go the distance with Calzhage clear winner. The way Toney would win would be by fairly early KO, if he could corner Joe.

Toney wasn't the same as Lacy.

Sure, power wise, yeah. That's were the similar ends really.

Toney is a master defensive fighter. Lacy ain't. Toney is a brilliant counter puncher. Lacy ain't. Toney at super-middle was shrewd, cunning, craft, smart, Lacy was/is still quite a green fighter.

You make it sound like Joe could just totally dominate Toney, and that's really unlikely, IMO.

Yep, pretty much. CC

[TitoFan]

As much as I don't like Toney, I'd have to give him the nod over Calzaghe at that weight. I still think he has no business being in the heavyweight division, and the only reason he's still around is the garbage that abounds in the heavies nowadays. A good heavyweight from past years would've knocked his fat a$$ into the cheap seats.

But at superMiddleweight, he must be given his just dues. Of course, that's all academic, since Toney would be both unable and unwilling to go back there. That was MANY pounds ago.

[Hulk]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from! Toney's skill & accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe has ever done! Hate Toney & the US all you want, but he is a great fighter!!!!

Well I'm a Brit and you were us once, until you all decided our religion wasn't good enough for you and so decided to leave and move to another bigger island to set up your own little community there.

And then once there, you all decided you didn't want to play sports with the rest of the world so you all had to invent your own and host World Series' events that consist of America verus......erm America.

Then you all build nucleur weapons, but don't like it when the other countries build them so you invade to stop them so you can be the only ones with big weapons.

Then you decide that other countries histories are better than yours so you invent cinema where you can make films and rewrite their history, so that now Ben Afleck a proud American wins the Battle of Britain for England, and Mel Gibson, a proud American leads the Scottish to victory and freedom, then Steve McQueen, a proud American leads the British prisoners in their great escape from a POW camp, and Tom Hanks and his fellow proud Americans single handedly defeat the Germans at Normandy.

:P

And seeing as I live in Korea, I might as well get in a nuclear argument. Why are the North Koreans not allowed to develop nuclear arms for self defence and yet the US has enough nuclear stockpiles to wipe out every nation on earth one by one...

the word hypocrisy springs to mind!!!

A boxer with nuclear arms would be a very hard puncher. Possibly unstoppable. :P

As I said on another post, the Americans are the equivalent of the spoilt brat at school who doesn't like the other kids playing football so he kicks it on to the roof to stop them playing and goes and plays swingball on his own.

They were the sad, moaning, whiny, sanctimonius Brits who thankfully got in their little boats and fucked off to the other side of the world.

Shortly followed by the theiving, low life riff raff that we kicked out and sent to another island on the other side of the world again!

I seriously hope you are kidding about Americans and Australians. If not, you need to grow up and stop bein pissed we kicked your fukin asses and won our independence over 200 years ago.

[Fenster]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from!

Coming from someone with half a brain that would of been pretty smart but as its from you, well

[raleights]

As I said on another post, the Americans are the equivalent of the spoilt brat at school who doesn't like the other kids playing football so he kicks it on to the roof to stop them playing and goes and plays swingball on his own.

They were the sad, moaning, whiny, sanctimonius Brits who thankfully got in their little boats and fucked off to the other side of the world.

Shortly followed by the theiving, low life riff raff that we kicked out and sent to another island on the other side of the world again!

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from!

IMO you're both extremery (as my asian friends say) bitter and a little racist, and I find it to be funny as racist humor is the absolute best (Clayton Bigsby is proof - white power!). This is a boxing forum though, so stick to discussing what you know about (boxing), no matter what you say on the subject of nuclear weapons neither of you know shit. Bottom line, Calzaghe UD's BurgerBoy

[Phil]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from! Toney's skill & accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe has ever done! Hate Toney & the US all you want, but he is a great fighter!!!!

Toney's accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe's done?

Joe did manage to beat this unbeatable superstar that u spent months telling us of his brilliance
and unstopable power! thats got to count 4 something

[skel1983]

Who gives a fook where a fighter is from u racist europeans, stop hating on the US cuz u cant be us! The fighter is who makes the person not where he is from! Toney's skill & accomplishments are 50 times better than what Joe has ever done! Hate Toney & the US all you want, but he is a great fighter!!!!

LMAO!!

Mate you been on the bottle again??

I dont think you have ever picked a European to beat an American in your entire life, sorry what am i talking about you have never picked anyone who is not from America, you are a strange man.