Darren Barker

[skel1983]

That was a great fight for the first 9 rounds until Barker decided to make Andre Dirrell look like Librado Andrade.

I thought he was very lucky in the end. I posted in another thread that Belghecham looked shit, which I had to delete. I've only seen him in this fight & against Lee & I think a bit of a fight against a Cameroonian guy in France. Both of those guys beat him pretty decisively, N'Dam N'Jikam had a complete shut out, Lee fight was a bit closer, but he probably only won 3 rounds. I thought he did enough for a draw tonight, the scoring was a joke.

I was rooting for Barker as a Londoner up until when he decided to just do a runner. Considering he looked seriously buzzed of Belghecham's shots, I reckon Macklin would blast him out.

Yes the 118-110 was a fucking joke, were getting worst than the Germans!!!

Barker was on the run a bit in the last couple, I thought the other bloke was not bad and given Barker has not fought that much recently I think he needed that fight unsure how a fight with Macklin goes.

[JazMerkin]

Yes the 118-110 was a fucking joke, were getting worst than the Germans!!!

Barker was on the run a bit in the last couple, I thought the other bloke was not bad and given Barker has not fought that much recently I think he needed that fight unsure how a fight with Macklin goes.

It really is getting bad here. I've seen so many awful scorecards & stoppages in the last 6 months here, I'm actually getting numb to it. It was actually why I was glad to see a solid KO tonight just so there wasn't any bollocks on the cards (which in that case there thankfully wouldn't have been).

[ryanman]

Yes the 118-110 was a fucking joke, were getting worst than the Germans!!!

Barker was on the run a bit in the last couple, I thought the other bloke was not bad and given Barker has not fought that much recently I think he needed that fight unsure how a fight with Macklin goes.

It really is getting bad here. I've seen so many awful scorecards & stoppages in the last 6 months here, I'm actually getting numb to it. It was actually why I was glad to see a solid KO tonight just so there wasn't any bollocks on the cards (which in that case there thankfully wouldn't have been).

Agreed. I used to have a superior attitude about the fairness here but thats just silly now. It just seems the ref/judges are given the script before the fight and they'll stick to it come hell or high water. I don't think its corruption as such but rather that they only take in what the 'home' fighter is doing rather than seeing the two fighters as starting as equals. In a sense I think they expect fighter A to win and know he's supposed to win and thus it becomes self-fulfilling as they view the fight with these preconceived ideas in their head. Either that or i'm talking crap.

[JazMerkin]

Yes the 118-110 was a fucking joke, were getting worst than the Germans!!!

Barker was on the run a bit in the last couple, I thought the other bloke was not bad and given Barker has not fought that much recently I think he needed that fight unsure how a fight with Macklin goes.

It really is getting bad here. I've seen so many awful scorecards & stoppages in the last 6 months here, I'm actually getting numb to it. It was actually why I was glad to see a solid KO tonight just so there wasn't any bollocks on the cards (which in that case there thankfully wouldn't have been).

Agreed. I used to have a superior attitude about the fairness here but thats just silly now. It just seems the ref/judges are given the script before the fight and they'll stick to it come hell or high water. I don't think its corruption as such but rather that they only take in what the 'home' fighter is doing rather than seeing the two fighters as starting as equals. In a sense I think they expect fighter A to win and know he's supposed to win and thus it becomes self-fulfilling as they view the fight with these preconceived ideas in their head. Either that or i'm talking crap.

I think that's the best way to look at it. I used to think people were whinging when they went on about Eubank, Hatton/Tszyu etc, but in recent times the only decision that I can think of going against one of ours was Thaxton/Mezaache. I think it's actually worse in British title fights as well. Small got jobbed royally a couple of weeks ago in a fight that he fought better in than he did against McDonagh in his previous fight.

It really is getting to a situation where you need to stop someone. Also is it just me or do British judges score a ridiculously high number of even rounds.

[Fenster]

That was a good fight.

Barker looked a bit weak and his defense was much poorer than of late. The Frenchman is a serious tough guy, he had Andy Lee under similar pressure late in their fight.

I still think Barker beats Macklin.

[Fenster]

It really is getting bad here. I've seen so many awful scorecards & stoppages in the last 6 months here, I'm actually getting numb to it. It was actually why I was glad to see a solid KO tonight just so there wasn't any bollocks on the cards (which in that case there thankfully wouldn't have been).

Agreed. I used to have a superior attitude about the fairness here but thats just silly now. It just seems the ref/judges are given the script before the fight and they'll stick to it come hell or high water. I don't think its corruption as such but rather that they only take in what the 'home' fighter is doing rather than seeing the two fighters as starting as equals. In a sense I think they expect fighter A to win and know he's supposed to win and thus it becomes self-fulfilling as they view the fight with these preconceived ideas in their head. Either that or i'm talking crap.

I think that's the best way to look at it. I used to think people were whinging when they went on about Eubank, Hatton/Tszyu etc, but in recent times the only decision that I can think of going against one of ours was Thaxton/Mezaache. I think it's actually worse in British title fights as well. Small got jobbed royally a couple of weeks ago in a fight that he fought better in than he did against McDonagh in his previous fight.

It really is getting to a situation where you need to stop someone. Also is it just me or do British judges score a ridiculously high number of even rounds.

Things really will be fucked if your previous performances have to be taken into account

I highly doubt the officiating has got worse. It's more likely that as you guys have got older, you have become more aware with the experience of watching more and more live boxing from around the world.

[Phil]

I really enjoyed this fight, the 118 score was crazy, even my Dad who doesn't know that much about boxing was pissed at that shit scoring. Don't think Barker will go that far judging by that performance, I think if the French guy could bang he'd have taken him out late on...

[JazMerkin]

Agreed. I used to have a superior attitude about the fairness here but thats just silly now. It just seems the ref/judges are given the script before the fight and they'll stick to it come hell or high water. I don't think its corruption as such but rather that they only take in what the 'home' fighter is doing rather than seeing the two fighters as starting as equals. In a sense I think they expect fighter A to win and know he's supposed to win and thus it becomes self-fulfilling as they view the fight with these preconceived ideas in their head. Either that or i'm talking crap.

I think that's the best way to look at it. I used to think people were whinging when they went on about Eubank, Hatton/Tszyu etc, but in recent times the only decision that I can think of going against one of ours was Thaxton/Mezaache. I think it's actually worse in British title fights as well. Small got jobbed royally a couple of weeks ago in a fight that he fought better in than he did against McDonagh in his previous fight.

It really is getting to a situation where you need to stop someone. Also is it just me or do British judges score a ridiculously high number of even rounds.

Things really will be fucked if your previous performances have to be taken into account

I highly doubt the officiating has got worse. It's more likely that as you guys have got older, you have become more aware with the experience of watching more and more live boxing from around the world.

I actually forgot to finish that sentence lol. Basically I think Small fought a better fight against Webb than against McDonagh. The reason I feel he didn't get the decision was because Webb is deemed a more 'sellable' fighter. He was never getting the decision in the same way McDonagh wasn't in the previous fight, even if I think Small just edged that one.

I think the officiating has got worse over the last few years. Since about 2006, there's been steadily more dodgy decisions in fights in the UK. We're like the new Italy.