Maybe Wlad should have spoken money in his little 'call out' speech to Haye if he wants to prove to boxing fans he is ducking him.
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Maybe Wlad should have spoken money in his little 'call out' speech to Haye if he wants to prove to boxing fans he is ducking him.
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Why?....
A. Wlad is the Champion Haye is a title holder along with the others....Including Vitaly.....He doesn't need to entice anyone into a fight they should be knocking at his door....
B. Wlad is the bigger name world wide....He also draws the same amount of live gate attendance in Germany as Haye would in England....
C. Wlad AND Vitali had already agreed to fight Haye, Wlad agreed to fight him in England even before Haye was champion...Talk about a guy proving he will fight someone...The World Champion saying he will go into your yard to give you a shot at what he has....Hard to say anything bad about that...
It was HAYE who found a way not to let the fight happen...Then with Vitaly there was some shit about an injury....He sure as shit healed up pretty quick when Vitaly signed another contract....Shit I want Hayes Back Doctor....My back has had issues for years...
Then now some shit about Haye and him wanting 60/40 his favor and PPV bonus or some shit like that...Talk about a guy being difficult......In truth outside of the UK no one knows who the fuck this guy is....And he has nothing Wlad wants...No one in their right minds believes Haye is the Real champion he holds the shittiest belt in the division
Wlad has to offer nothing,,,,Haye has called him out numerous times....Haye called out Vitali numerous times...Both agreed to fights Haye found a way to avoid them...When they had other contracts signed Haye starts his shit again knowing they have obligations....But funny when either Brother has a free schedule Haye becomes injured or involved in big important fights with Valuev and Ruiz....
He has been called a bitch in publicd...Now either sign or shut up...Because he has nothing left to do....
His manhood in on the line....After this he becomes all talk
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Few points.
Highlighted a few there where you are wrong, first one why is Wlad making video's for if Haye has nothing he want's?? Bit bizzare if thats the case?
Next one he might draw the same gate but he don't draw 800k ppv's ( will be more if he fights Wlad at $24 a pop that is $19.2 million more than Wlad has ever done
The fight was agreed for Germany not England..
There was no injury with Vitali that was Wlad, Vitlai he didnt sign the contract no deal was in place just talks.
Finally where the hell do you get your 60/40 from and ppv add on's?? Watch that video I just posted Haye wants 50/50 which I think is very reasonable when he brings them ppv numbers to the table. But Wlad won't agree to 50/50 but when you look at the numbers it is very fair.
Not saying Haye is whiter than white and he has been a cunt in the past the way he has pulled out and talked but some of the stuff you have said is just not true.
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Wlad has agreed to fight Haye in England and has said it publicly...On more then one occassion..
Maybe I stated it backwards on which brother had his fight derailed due to the injury but fact is Haye still pulled out of the fight and the after events happened...Does it really matter if he refused to fight one and over stated an injury to escape the other....
I said now some shit about...the 60/40 split and worded it the way I did because that was the latest rumor from the day going around different places...If it was something I knew for a fact as true I would have stated it different so If I made that sound as if I knew for fact my mistake for wording it that way...And I did not watch the video sorry mate...
Wlad is the bigger name world wide period...Don't know why you highlighted that....Wlad has had mainstream exposure...Haye is the bigger name in the UK...Wlad has hit the talk show circuit here in the US...Tonight show was one that made him known to non boxing fans in the US...His attendance numbers in Germany are a proven fact...50,000-60,000 for his last several fights....He is big is all the Russian based countries...Ukraine, Poland etc...
Wlad is considered the HW champion he holds the ring title and majority of ABC belts....That was highlighted why?...Who does not consider him the most talented HW out there?....In truth the only chance Haye has is he catches Wlad with something big and stops him...Wlad is bigger, Stronger, better all around boxer, better jab, hook, and defense....
As for chins neither's is great....But Haye has yet to be hit flush by a genuine hard hitting HW......So in the chin dept we will not even compare because both are shaky....
But I suppose you will comeback with a post that has
Wlad is bigger highlighted in bold regardless of the fact Wlad is 6'6 240 and Haye 6'3 220
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To be honest mate,
A. He IS trying to entice and it looks a little desperate for a well established champ to do this. Why? I dunno, maybe he realises Haye is doing things without him and his brother and still getting shitloads of cash and recognition.
B. Strange innit? Haye can sell just as well as a guy who spent a large part of his career dominating at Heavy and all after just a couple of fights. Now Wlad is doing the chasing instead of Haye.
C. Fuck knows, why they needed rematch clauses and all the rest of it I don't know. Haye done his own thing and like I said, now the Klits are calling Haye out. Not a bad turn-around is it?
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People, he beat John Ruiz and Monte Barret! That's "doing stuff?", really? That's absolutely nothing when talking about the heavyweights. That's something any of the other top 10 heavyweights who people on here and Haye himself like to talk shit on so much. If Ruslan Chagaev or Ibragimov beat both those guys it would not generate this much chatter. He's done good at getting people talking and I'm sure Wladimir wants to beat him down, but please his stay at heavyweight has been unsatisfying to say the least!
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Lol your going on as if he has been heavyweight for the past 5 years, he has been a heavyweight for less than 18 months, fought a old gatekeeper on his debut at the weight similar foes moving up have done exactly the same Adamek fought Golota, his next fight was against Valuev who was the slight favourite in that fight and the Wba Champ not bad for your second fight his third fight was against the Mandatory who if he didn't fight would of lost the belt and would of heavily lost him negotiation points without the title against bigger and better opponents.
I don't even like Haye he is a big mouth over rated cock who will get splattered by both Klits but in his defence he has a lot of uncalled hate on here in terms of what he has done in the ring, by all means call him for his antics out of the ring and call him for the pull outs which are valid but come on 18 months into his tenure at heavyweight and he is the WBA Champ and now 18 months is probably going to fight one of the top two not bad really.
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now lets not try to paint it to make Haye's "resume" at HW look nicer, he had his scary moments against Barret, barely beat the Valuev, the same Valuev that an ancient Holyfield beat (but was robbed), and then finally had a good showing against John Ruiz who hasn't really been a threat for anyone in the top 5 in the last 3 yrs
Adamek took on Golota in his debut, took on a still able Estrada in his second fight although nothing special, and not even a year after becoming a HW is already taking on a top contender in Arreola to try and work his way up to a title shot, just like Haye should have done
so if Adamek beats Arreola i'd say that his resume outshines Haye's even without a title
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Scary moments against Barrett haha is that an April fools gag?? Couple of weeks late mate, that was one of the biggest one sided beat downs I seen all year.
Did you on purpose by pass the reason he fought Ruiz ?? It was a mandatory or he loses the title, you no the same Mandatory the Klits fight more or less every fight. Like I said Haye has done well since fighting at heavyweight three fights in he is WBA Champ and hopefully fighting the top guy next.
Three fights in Adamek edges it but who is in the better posistion?
You say the barely beat Valuev he did I agree again and the fact is he beat Valuev and the big man went off as favourite for that fight.
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I am only forcing Haye to live up to the standards he set with his own mouth when he promised the world he would be fighting a top 10 contender and someone everyone knows before pulling Monte Barrett's name out of the hat. Then pulling out of fights with 2 Klitschkos yet still managing to talk all sorts of trash. I know it's all part of the game and it is nice to have a guy who actually passes the eyeball test but the Klitschko's are definitely still the top dogs in the division and I don't think Haye comes close to putting a scare in either.
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Who was calling out the brothers first?
Who managed to find a way not to sign with Vitali?
Who had a sudden back injury so not to fight Wlad but was healed the day Wlad signed to fight someone else? Hours after.....
It has ZERO to do with money Haye is making...Haye is not making the money you are trying to make it sound....Haye made how much to fight Barrett? How much to fight Valuev? How much to fight Ruiz?
You act as if they are jealous because Haye is running the HW division and without him they can't get a payday....
Hell you act as if Haye is getting Tyson like paydays....
They don't need him...This has gone past titles, ranking etc...This has become personal..
Hell now Haye has become so desperate that he is trying to get the Klitschko's or make the public believe the Klitschko's need to fight each other before they deserve to fight him for his PAPER title....
Haye wants nothing to do with either...
This is a UK rag no?
David Haye says Klitschko brothers should fight each other | The Sun |Sport|Boxing
(though I don't know the credibility of the paper)
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This'll happen sooner rather than later imo,, Booth starts at 50/50 but will probably agree less. Haye doesn'r really have much options considering most the guys like Chagaev/Arreola/Peter/Dimitrenko/Chambers/Povetkin (bread and butter shut outs for the Klits) are massive risks for Haye where he might actually be less than 50/50 against most, and I reckon he/Booth know it. IMO couple months negotiating and we should see Haye Klit next.
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